Re: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

To: davebohm@home.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:32:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


> It is too bad that the bike industry as a whole has not cultivated
> this concept.

WE are cultivating it!! e-RICHIE

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:11:29 -0700 "dave bohm" <davebohm@home.com> writes:
> Brian,
>
> I understand what you are saying. But I find it odd that the
> Italians seem to have such a love of old vehicles but not of bikes.
> Maybe bikes are too utilitarian?
>
> And in some way does the collecting of lets say old Ferrari's
> stimulate the buying of new Ferrari's because one always knows that
> eventually it too will be a collectable?
>
> It is too bad that the bike industry as a whole has not cultivated
> this concept.
>
> Dave Bohm
> Bohemian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Baylis
> To: J.Dunn
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models
>
>
> John,
>
> Albert has always been down on older frames strictly from a
> standpoint
> of there is nothing in it for him. The Italians (Alberto Masi
> comes to
> mind) are like this as well. They don't understand what we see in
> this
> stuff.
>
> I called Albert when I was persuing my 1962 Masi Special that he
> gave to
> his former wife as a wedding gift, and I had to use a crow bar
> just to
> get the smallest bit of information about the past of this bike.
> We know
> each other well, but it doesn't seem to matter to him; he just
> isn't
> into it. I mentioned to him the frame of his I had and mentioned
> I'd
> like to have another one if he ran into one; and he just laughed
> at me.
> That's just the way Uncle Albert is.
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
> >
> > "Buying an old bike is no bargin at any price. Any part of the
> > bike may be ready to fail.
> >
> > Albert Eisentraut"
> >
> > Jeez, what an optimist. ;-) No bargain at any price?? This is,
> at least,
> > the second well known and respected framebuilder that has
> expressed the
> > opinion that collecting their work and putting a great value on
> an old bike,
> > just because they made it, is rather foolish. Truth or false
> modesty, you
> > think?
> >
> > John Dunn in Boise, who has a lot of nice old bikes, not nearly
> as desirable
> > as an Eisentraut, and doesn't think any of them is on the point
> of failure
> > (he said, as the fork fell off ;-).
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: DB <db@home-work.com>
> > To: kevin gosney <kevingosney10@hotmail.com>;
> > <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:32 PM
> > Subject: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models
> >
> > > I asked Mr. Eisentraut some similar questions a few months ago
> and I
> > > don't think he would mind me sharing his informative reply
> with the
> > > CR group (see below). Note the last couple of sentences. I
> had
> > > contacted him because I had questions on a used Limited that I
> had
> > > acquired. Watch out for those used bikes!
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