Re: [CR] Carlton and Peugeot dating

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Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:07:59 +0000
Subject: Re: [CR] Carlton and Peugeot dating
From: "Hilary Stone" <>
To: Neill Currie <>, <>
In-Reply-To: <>

> Neill Currie wrote:>
> First is a Carlton with "Capella" style lugs.
> Serial # is G2946 on the left rear dropout. No RD
> hanger on this frame, almost no braze-ons.

This quite a late Carlton. It has Capella lugs which were used on a number of models ranging from the fairly cheap to the better - what size seatpin does it take? Capella lugs I think were introduced in 1959. The frame number is a genuine Carlton type number rather than a Raleigh. However I am not sure how long Carlton numbering survived after the Raleigh buyout in 1960/1, the lugs continued for a number of years.
> Second is a Peugeot. This has a RD hanger, but it
> has two stops brazed onto the chainstay for RD
> cables.........that means it was designed in the
> era when RD's had a double cable actuation,
> right? Serial # is 240280 stamped into the BB
> shell.

I would think this used the Simplex 543 gear which would place it in the period 1955-59 unless it is much earlier when several Huret gears had genuine twin wire control.

Hilary Stone in still wet and windy Bristol, England