[CR]RE: CR Date Cutoff

Example: Production Builders:Peugeot:PX-10LE
From: "Andrew Gillis" <apgmaa@earthlink.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:07:21 -0800
Subject: [CR]RE: CR Date Cutoff


The List categories are still Dale's perogative, but I prefer that our CR list discussions allow high-end classically styled lugged steel frames of any year. It seems to me that the CR interest in lugged steel bikes, with their handling and style, could only benefit by continuing the discussion to include modern bikes which share the characteristics we appreciate.

Considering that Campy did the wider 130 mm hubs to to accomodate early 7 speed, I believe that that the 126 mm criteria, although it demarcates a definite time period, is otherwise a bit arbitrary.

To strictly define a vintage era to the "classic" requirements would unfortunately eliminate my two personal examples:

My 2001 Mercian Strada Special has a frameset style similar to other models which have been produced for many years. This new bike is nearly all NOS NR/SR equipped, but it has the 130 rear end, which gives a better fit for the wider Maillard 7 freewheels (compared to Regina CX/CX-S). It would also seem slighty unfair to not include it because I now have to ride Look pedals, simply because I can't find any more vintage leather shoes to fit my now bigger feet. At least I'm riding it!

The same could be said about my wonderful 1996 Richard Sachs frameset, in which the styling and tubeset is the same as many of his earlier, in period bikes. The frameset, although "out of period, " is certainly a classic. Also, when other weekend riders see me using modern (Ergo 9) parts on it, I can assure you that it piques their interest as to why I would put modern parts onto a supposedly "old-fashioned" bike. Why? Because I like how it rides, and how it looks. That's why!

My $0.02...

Andrew Gillis (intermittent rain, wind, sun, and dark clouds in Long Beach, CA)