Re: [CR]Campy quill pedal question


Example: Framebuilders:Alberto Masi
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:21:20 -0800 (PST)
From: "Tom Dalton" <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Campy quill pedal question
To: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <20020225.113431.-4160949.13.richardsachs@juno.com>


Right, different pressed-in races, spindles (of course), adj. races, and balls. All other parts the same. I think the catalog #'s would probably bear this out.

Tom


--- Richard M Sachs wrote:


> so the bodies are the same, but the pressed in

\r?\n> races, and the guts, are different?

\r?\n> e-RICHIE

\r?\n> upstairs, but in chester

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:52:12 -0800 (PST) Tom Dalton

\r?\n> <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> writes:

\r?\n> > I recall a series of posts on this issue not long

\r?\n> ago.

\r?\n> > One listmember pointed out that the bodies that

\r?\n> made

\r?\n> > it onto the SR pedals had a nicer finish. Who

\r?\n> knows

\r?\n> > if this was true at all times, or nver, or if some

\r?\n> of

\r?\n> > the SR pedals got special treatment and others

\r?\n> didn't.

\r?\n> > It would not be unlike Campy to put a "special

\r?\n> > finish" on some early SR pedals and then get tired

\r?\n> of

\r?\n> > the extra work and revert back to the standard

\r?\n> > finish... or for the quality of the standard

\r?\n> finish to

\r?\n> > vary considerably over time.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > The pressed-in races on the SR pedals are

\r?\n> different

\r?\n> > from all the others because they are made for use

\r?\n> with

\r?\n> > 1/8" balls insted of the 5/32" balls of the NR/SL

\r?\n> > pedals. I am virtually certain that the pedal

\r?\n> bodies

\r?\n> > are all machined the same way and will accept

\r?\n> either

\r?\n> > race.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Tom Dalton

\r?\n> > Bethlehem, PA

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > --- David Bilenkey <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca> wrote:

\r?\n> > > I was aware that there was a difference and that

\r?\n> the

\r?\n> > > guts of the Ti and

\r?\n> > > steel spindle versions were not interchangeable,

\r?\n> but

\r?\n> > > I'd suspect (from a

\r?\n> > > manufacturing standpoint) that the main body

\r?\n> casting

\r?\n> > > would have been the

\r?\n> > > same, perhaps with slightly different internal

\r?\n> > > machining. From all the

\r?\n> > > pedals I've seen the black alloy cages appear to

\r?\n> be

\r?\n> > > the same (for both Ti

\r?\n> > > and steel spindled)....

\r?\n> > >

\r?\n> > > Just looking at a handy Ti pedal (50th) and a

\r?\n> couple

\r?\n> > > other SL pedals there

\r?\n> > > is no real visible external difference in the

\r?\n> > > casting or cage.

\r?\n> > >

\r?\n> > > David Bilenkey

\r?\n> > > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

\r?\n> > >

\r?\n> > >

\r?\n> > > -----Original Message-----

\r?\n> > > From: classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org

\r?\n> > > [mailto:classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org]On

\r?\n> > > Behalf Of Richard M

\r?\n> > > Sachs

\r?\n> > > Sent: February 25, 2002 8:33 AM

\r?\n> > > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> > > Subject: Re: [CR]Campy quill pedal question

\r?\n> > >

\r?\n> > >

\r?\n> > > also:

\r?\n> > > the sr ti spindles and guts don't fit in either

\r?\n> of

\r?\n> > > the nr pedals,

\r?\n> > > the 1037 or the 1037a. so there must be more to

\r?\n> it

\r?\n> > > than that

\r?\n> > > the same black cage was used for both types.

\r?\n> > > can anyone verify this?

\r?\n> > > e-RICHIE

\r?\n> > > on north main st

\r?\n> > >

\r?\n> > > On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:04:37 -0800 Bill Bryant

\r?\n> > > <Bill_Bryant@prodigy.net>

\r?\n> > > writes:

\r?\n> > > > Yes, you are indeed correct; I erroneously

\r?\n> > > overlooked that

\r?\n> > > > short-lived

\r?\n> > > > version--perhaps for understandable reasons.

\r?\n> ;-)

\r?\n> > > > OTOH, I wrote that "Classic Campy" pedals are

\r?\n> the

\r?\n> > > same except for

\r?\n> > > > the cages. I

\r?\n> > > > would offer that the Ti SR version fell

\r?\n> somewhat

\r?\n> > > outside that

\r?\n> > > > category and

\r?\n> > > > belong in an exotic group, not the classic

\r?\n> one.

\r?\n> > > >

\r?\n> > > > Bill Bryant

\r?\n> > > > Santa Cruz.

\r?\n> > > >

\r?\n> > > >

\r?\n> > > >

\r?\n> > > > Questor wrote:

\r?\n> > > >

\r?\n> > > > > I believe that Campy briefly marketed

\r?\n> titanium

\r?\n> > > axles for the

\r?\n> > > > Superleggera

\r?\n> > > > > black alloy pedals. Because they proved to

\r?\n> be

\r?\n> > > too brittle and

\r?\n> > > > cracked

\r?\n> > > > > easily, Campy converted in 1978 to all-steel

\r?\n> > > axles. Yes, there

\r?\n> > > > are

\r?\n> > > > > additional differences!

\r?\n> > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

\r?\n> > > > > From: "Bill Bryant"

\r?\n> <Bill_Bryant@prodigy.net>

\r?\n> > > > > To: "Jon M. Schaer"

\r?\n> <jschaer@columbus.rr.com>

\r?\n> > > > > Cc: "Classic Rendezvous"

\r?\n> > > <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

\r?\n> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:22 PM

\r?\n> > > > > Subject: Re: [CR]Campy quill pedal question

\r?\n> > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > > Classic Campy pedals are all the same on

\r?\n> the

\r?\n> > > inside. The only

\r?\n> > > > difference

\r?\n> > > > > is the

\r?\n> > > > > > chrome steel cage versus black anodized

\r?\n> alloy

\r?\n> > > cage (and the road

\r?\n> > > > versus

\r?\n> > > > > track

\r?\n> > > > > > cage designs.)

\r?\n> > > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > > Bill Bryant

\r?\n> > > > > > Santa Cruz, CA

\r?\n> > > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > > "Jon M. Schaer" wrote:

\r?\n> > > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > > > Is there any mechanical or design

\r?\n> difference

\r?\n> > > between the

\r?\n> > > > silver-cage and

\r?\n> > > > > the

\r?\n> > > > > > > black-cage models?

\r?\n> > > > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > > > Thanks,

\r?\n> > > > > > >

\r?\n> > > > > > > Jon Schaer

\r?\n> > > > > > > Columbus, OH