Re: [CR]Gimondi (reprise)

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To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net
Cc: CBKNYC@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:58:02 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Gimondi (reprise)
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


if the guy's gimondi frame had a bMz logo on it, chances are 100% that it's a biemezzetta product. like other licensed names, (the recent thread about saronni frames comes to mind), many similarly branded frames could have been sourced from various job shops. e-RICHIE in connecticut. where women are champions.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:35:12 -0600 "Jerry & Liz Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> writes:
> I've gotten a couple of off-list responses from members familiar
> with
> Gimondi frames (perhaps those who posted the one I remember). I
> seems my
> recollections were more or less correct. There was a pro quality
> model with
> Felice's photo on the decal. I'm informed that it was mode by
> Chiorda. Of
> course that wouldn't absolutely prove that the Gimondi bike that
> started
> this thread was from the same source.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
> To: <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: <CBKNYC@aol.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Gimondi (reprise)
>
>
> > <They could have been made by Bianchi or another major Italian
> firm.>
> >
> >
> > that's why i noted the biemezzetta tie-in.
> > e-RICHIE
> > in connecticut. home of husky women.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 13:10:19 -0600 "Jerry & Liz Moos"
> > <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> writes:
> > > I'm certainly not the expert Richard is, but I could swear I
> recall
> > > having
> > > seen photos of a high-end Gimondi frame which was very much
> > > connected to
> > > Felice Gimondi, even had a decal with Gimondi's photo, much
> like
> > > Merckx's
> > > picture on some of the old Merckx frames. I seem to recall that
> the
> > > Gimondi
> > > bikes were typically deep blue. They could have been made by
> > > Bianchi or
> > > another major Italian firm. Does anyone else remember these or
> am I
> > > totally
> > > delusional here?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jerry Moos
> > > Houston, TX
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
> > > To: <CBKNYC@aol.com>
> > > Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CR]Gimondi (reprise)
> > >
> > >
> > > > your frame is likely an industrial made frame,
> > > > made for the 'home market', rather than for export.
> > > > gimondi 'could' be felice gimondi, but i very much
> > > > doubt it; his ties to bianchi are too strong. gimondi
> > > > is not an uncommon name in italy. the fact that the
> > > > bMz marque is present is my reason for this.
> > > > biemezzetta, (bMz), was/is a frame making company
> > > > that specialized in private label frames. if one had some
> > > > capital, a logo, a few size designs, and patience,
> > > > biemezzetta and companys like it, (romani, etcetera),
> > > > would make the frames for you.
> > > > e-RICHIE
> > > > chester
> > > >
> > > > p.s. do you shoot hoops at the cage two blocks down?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:39:06 EST CBKNYC@aol.com writes:
> > > > > Reprise, with my name & location & improved spelling
> > > > > =================================================
> > > > > A friend has a bicycle he bought in Italy called a
> "Gimondi".
> > > He
> > > > > bought it
> > > > > long (20 years?) ago, paid a lot, and the frame has the
> sticker
> > > > > shown below.
> > > > >
> > > > > My impression is that there is a world of "classics" that
> never
> > > made
> > > > > it to
> > > > > the US -- and this may be one of those unknown but quality
> > > names.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anybody know what a Gimondi is, or what it's frame might be
> > > made
> > > > > from? An
> > > > > excerpt of an exchange about this is below.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Charles
> > > > >
> > > > > ==================================================
> > > > > >C> Gimondis appear to be not well known in the US, but
> > > > > >C>I saw a lot of postings about them in Italian.
> > > > >
> > > > > S> I don't know if the tubing is Columbus. All it says is
> > > Tubazione
> > > > > Leggiera
> > > > > 0.9, with a tubing
> > > > > S> abel that say BZ with an M above (the M is spread out to
> > > look
> > > > > like two
> > > > > mountains, one above the
> > > > > S> B and the other above the Z).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> =========================================================================
> > > > > Charles B. Kramer
> > > > > New York, New York, 7th Street (north side)
> > > > > Blood type: unknown