Re: [CR]Raleigh Pro Question

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

To: OROBOYZ@aol.com
Cc: KCTOMMY@msn.com, losborn2@wvu.edu, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 09:06:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]Raleigh Pro Question
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


<< On a related note, do any other builders use the "shot in stays" as a method of creating a fastback stay arrangement, as opposed to joining the stays to the seat binder bolt?>>

when i was in england at witcomb cycles, this seatstay cofiguration was offered and on at least 1/3 of the frames. e-RICHIE on the road

On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:23:31 EST OROBOYZ@aol.com writes:
> In a message dated 3/30/2002 7:00:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> KCTOMMY@msn.com writes:
>
> << Did Dale have to file up the lug edges during the resto, or does
> he just
> have a steadier hand when pin striping? And if he filed them, does
> this
> impact the originality of the bike? Bike boom Raleighs are supposed
> to be
> rough and rugged! :>) >>
>
> Raleighs (and Paramounts and PX10s, etc.) varied wildly during those
> bike
> boom days. No I didn't file up that Pro. That was pure luck!
>
> << On a related note, do any other builders use the "shot in stays"
> as a
> method of creating a fastback stay arrangement, as opposed to
> joining the
> stays to the seat binder bolt? I seem to recall a small British
> builder
> doing this, but can't recall for certain. Mercian, perhaps? Does
> this stay
> arrangement endanger the seat tube during brazing? Is there a
> weight
> penalty, due to the plate on the back of the seat tube? >>
>
> I seem to recall (Warning! Faulty memory synapses being accessed!)
> quite a
> number of small speciality builders doing similar things.
>
> The seat tube IS very thin at that end so the habit if adding a
> small piece
> of cut up tubing between the stays and the seat tube is a good idea
> IMO.
> Sure it adds a bit of weight! It is also a place to add a little
> artsey
> flourish. Look at the blue and orange frame half way down the page I
> made..
> http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/Dales_frames/dbrown.htm
>
>
> Dale Brown
> cycles de ORO, Inc.
> 1410 Mill Street
> Greensboro, North Carolina
> USA 27408
> 336-274-5959
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