I find the tensionmeter useful in determining if the spokes are at the right tension for particular guages or styles of spokes. To determine if all the spokes have even tension I spin the wheel and as long as the spot where the spokes cross doesn't move up or down all the spokes are even tension, doesn't work with straight pull. Russ roth albany, ny
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>Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Blatant commercial message. LONG! (Richard M Sachs)
> 2. Re: tubulars (Huemax@aol.com)
> 3. re: Hi-E Help?? (Harvey M. Sachs)
> 4. Re: tensionometers (carl derrick)
> 5. PUGET SOUND VINTAGE BIKE RIDE APRIL 28 (Troy Warnick)
> 6. 27" X 32 hole rims, I need help!!! (wjs22@att.net)
> 7. Re: Web Sites (Chuck Schmidt)
> 8. Meteor bicycle information wanted (Mark A. Perkins)
> 9. more tubular tires (Jim McCoin)
> 10. FS: Gitane mixte and others (Harvey M. Sachs)
> 11. Moulton Series 1 for Sale (Harvey M. Sachs)
> 12. Re: Hi-E Help?? (Mark A. Perkins)
>
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>
>Message: 1
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:28:05 -0400
>From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
>Subject: [CR]Blatant commercial message. LONG!
>
>Please read everything...
>Caution: Shift key at work today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Will you be at Dale's Le Cirque du Cyclisme?
>I will!!!!!!!!!
>From what I understand, just as Bobby Richardson
>of the old N.Y. Yankess did, I will be batting second
>right after Hilary Stone leads off. Since I don't get out much,
>here's a few lines about what to expect from me...
>
>I will give the alotted 60 minute presentation. After much
>deliberation and culling, though these were to be my
>possible topics:
>1) Hoarding or collecting, which is better?
> (ruled out. it'd be too self serving.)
>2) What does the <F> in Ephgrave _really_ stand for?
> (nocando pookums. dale said there'd be women present)
>3) Cinelli Special Corsa vs. Cinelli Super Corsa.
> (too much speculation)
>4) Which is better, Masi OR Flying Scot?
> (can't do. there will be brits present)
>5) Frame 'brand' licensing: Good or bad?
> (can linens and perfumes be the next step
> from the famous names?)
>
>...I've decided that the subject will be my area of expertise:
> *My Life So Far*
><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>Here are a few things I will be bringing for the
>show n' tell hour:
>1) The twins, a.k.a. my two 1971 Italian Masi
> Gran Criteriums, as described in these two links:
>http://www.richardsachs.com/articles/rsachsperiod.html
>http://www.campyonly.com/retrobikes/sachs_masi.html
>2) A 1999 25th Anniversary Replica Model Bicycle.
>3) A lovely 'preserved' example of a simple but bitchin'
> frame I built in 1991, pictured here:
>http://www.richardsachs.com/gallery/pages/rsbluehtube.htm
>4) My newest personal bicycle, built since my last newest
> personal bicycle was TOTALED during the recent
> unpleasantness of late January.
>5) A frame in the half-built stages, to be displayed,
> Mario-style, in a vintage Campagnolo workstand.
>6) A collection of 40+ sets (of three) lugs from the
> 50's to the 90's to show those of you who don't
> build the frames just what these bad boys look like
> in their 'rough' state!
>7) Two 4 minute films produced and aired on local
> television by the NBC and CBS affiliates. One clip
> is from last summer, the other is from '89. (I'm ready
> for my close-up, Mr. DeMille).
>8) My collection of nearly ONE HUNDRED New Yorker
> magazines, from the 20's to the present, each and every
> f?cking one of them depicting a bicycle in the cover art
> in some way, shape, or form. These treasures are kept
> in archival bags. But no matter, if you sneeze within
> 100 feet of them, you'll be on my shit list. These things
> are the only 'things' more important to me than my
> butler building full of nos/nip campy, oops, I mean
> 'Campagnolo'.
>9) The Pista Resistance, perhaps 'A(nother) Resurrection of
> Highest Order', the bicycle that took 30 years to build,
> the frame into which all my knowledge, every mistake,
> each innovation, every kilometer raced, every lie I ever told,
> every frame I ever copied from... yada, yada, yada.
> The International, make that the Galactic debut of the
> Richard Sachs 30th Anniversary frame built up as a complete
> bicycle. Preview pics of the frame are here:
>http://www.richardsachs.com/rsachs30gallery/index.htm
>10) And if time permits, I'll talk about,
> a) why red Twizzlers are my favorite food,
> b) why my favorite scent is fabric softener,
> c) why the stripes on my ties MUST descend from the heart
> rather than the 'wrong' way,
> d) why "someone has to win the race, it might as well be me",
> e) why Varttina is my favorite band,
> f) why 'Ghost World' is now my favorite movie,
> g) why...
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>
>And most importantly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>I will be AUCTIONING off three NEW OLD STOCK, never
>been read, never been opened, completely sans dna
>copies of the June 1990 Bicycle Guide issue outing my
>work. The article was written by Christopher Koch.
>Here are links:
>http://www.richardsachs.com/articles/rsachsbuildercover.html
>http://www.richardsachs.com/articles/rsachsbuilder.html
>The high bidders may choose to have their issues personally
>autographed by me. (Jeez!).
>How to bid????????????????????????/
>Simple. If you want to bid on these, send your bid amount
>to chuckschmidt@earthlink.net via email BEFORE the
>Wednesday prior to the Cirque. Otherwise, bids will be
>'accepted' at Dale's weekend in person.
>IMPORTANT: All revenue derived from the high bids will
>be applied to the costs Dale incurs to keep the Classic Rendezvous
>site in cyberspace. It's a worthy 'cause'. Please bid high.
>REMEMBER: There are THREE issues to bid on.
>
>end of message. see you in greensboro.
>e-RICHIE
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 2
>From: Huemax@aol.com
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:35:39 EDT
>Subject: Re: [CR]tubulars
>To: jac33@tron.arts.cornell.edu, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
>Hi, Jon,
>
>Try WD-40. Do not spray but use brush to apply, it will loosen, rubber,
>tape, and even
>rim cement.
>
>Ken Toda, High Point, NC. we have summer days and record temp. over 90'
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:37:11 -0100
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>From: "Harvey M. Sachs" <sachs@erols.com>
>Subject: re: [CR]Hi-E Help??
>
>Eric Elman wrote with notes and questions on Hi-E hubs. I like them, but
>they are not w/o "idiosyncracies." Let me see if I can help with his
>questions.
>Eric's description:
>Front: low flange, all silver flanges and center, "Hi-E" etched in center,
>16h per side.
>Rear: High flange (almost 3"), all silver flanges and center with "Hi-E"
>etched in center, threaded for a freewheel, 126mm, 24h on drove side and 16h
>on other.
>
>EE: So, are these early hubs or recent hubs, about what year? I've seen a set
>with black centers so assume thses are older?
>HS: I assume earlier. I have some from the 1970s, but the 126 is slightly
>later than the 120s we have, I'm sure. I've never seen black centers.
>
>EE: Is the hi-flange rear uncommon as I've never seen another?
>HS: I don't recall ever seeing either a low-flange rear or a hi-flange front.
>
>EE: Why a hi-flange rear and low front?
>HS: No torque on front wheel, Harlan Meyer (designer/owner) advocated
>radial fronts. Thought - I gues, that HF gave better ability to transfer
>torque in the back.
>
>EE: Why 16/24h on the rear and how would that be laced up to a 40h rim?
>HS: 16/24 was designed to get even spoke tension, given dishing that
>increases tension on drive side. Use 16 radials on left, and 24 on the
>right. Ah, more subtlety: Use 4x length spokes for "pulling"
>(counterclockwise direction from hub to rim) and 2x length for "static" spokes.
>
>EE: These are very light - are they durable and good to use for an
>everyday bike
>or are do they lack durability and should only be used for races?
>HS: There were two different front hubs (at least). Front barrel <20 mm
>diameter is the "time trial" hub, recommended for lighter riders. My wife
>used hers (with superlight rims) routinely for years till she stopped
>riding except the tandem.
>
>EE: How do/did they compare on cost & quality to say Phil hubs and campagnolo
>Record?
>HS: Your HiE hubs have one weirdness about them. Like Phil, they use
>cartridge bearings. Unlike Phil, you have to unlace the wheel to pull the
>end cap/flange to replace the bearing, if it ever fails. I've never had to
>replace one, but don't have near the mileage on them that we have on some
>Phils.
>
>As for quality, leaving artistry out of it, and being a bit heretical, the
>Campy Record hub is a fine example of great 1920s design. Great races,
>great finish, fine angled flanges and countersunk holes. Phil and HiE are,
>in my opinion, much better hubs. Larger diameter axle for more stiffness
>and potential for less weight, cartridge bearings for long life and good
>performance, and equally good or better spoke seating.
>
>Seeing as they are so obsolete and hard to work on, I would be willing to
>trade something of equivalent value, perhaps some Normandy sports... :-)
>
>harvey "heretic" sachs
>mclean va
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Hi-E(ric) Hi-E(lman)
>Somers, CT that had an earthquake this morning at 6:53am
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 4
>From: "carl derrick" <mamamia111@hotmail.com>
>To: richardsachs@juno.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]tensionometers
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:50:55 +0000
>
>I will second this. "Trueness" and maintaining true are dependent on equal
>tension. Joe Young http://www.youngwheels.com by all accounts is considered the
>premier wheel builder in this country. His resume reads like the
>reincarnation of Spence Wolf. Anyways, Joe insists that equal and maximum
>tension are the two critical factors in wheelbuilding, and wheels that he
>has built for me over the decades have NEVER gone out of true, and (call me
>crazy because I cannot quantify why) but they are also very fast. Joe adds
>some other details to his work - things that score high points for me -
>
>1) Center punch the spoke heads to "set" them in the hub flanges. This
>technique prevents spoke head "creep" that can effect trueness and tension.
>
>2) On a completed wheel the decals should read from the drive side of the
>bike, with the hub spindle markings read from the saddle looking foreward,
>directly through the valve hole. For example, say you have a Campagnolo hub
>and fiamme rim. With the wheel in a truing stand, spin the wheel so that the
>valve hole is up (at the 12:00 position). Looking through the valve hole,
>standing behind the wheel, the Campagnolo script on the hub spindle should
>be facing you rightside up, also at the 12:00 position, and the rim decal
>directly beyond, at the 6:00 position. Technically speaking, it doesn't make
>a difference, but aesthetically it make sense.
>
>3) The issue of locktite is always debated, but Joe does not use it and
>claims that a properly tensioned spoke will not loosen. I can attest to his
>theory, as none of his spokes have ever loosened on me.
>
>Carl Derrick
>Queens NY
>
>
>
>
>>From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
>>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>Subject: Re: [CR]tensionometers
>>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 18:20:53 -0400
>>
>>i'd rather have a wheel built with integrity than a wheel
>>that's cosmetically round or true. to have it all would
>>simply be icing on the cake.
>>vintage era rims were not always precise, 'specially the lighter
>>ones. they were kept in check as a component of complete wheels
>>by being built with PROPER TENSION. tensionometers are just
>>a way to quantify this. they don't replace good judgement
>>but they can verify errors when something during the build
>>goes awry.
>>e-RICHIE
>>the wheel thing
>>_______________________________________________
>
>
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>
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>
>Message: 5
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:20:36 -0700
>From: "Troy Warnick" <oldschoolcycles@lycos.com>
>Reply-To: oldschoolcycles@lycos.com
>Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80)
>Subject: [CR]PUGET SOUND VINTAGE BIKE RIDE APRIL 28
>
>Greetings,
>
>This message is to officially announce the first Puget Sound area vintage bike ride. It will be held on Sunday, April 28 and begin at 1:00 in the afternoon. Arrive early to allow time for introductions and last minute tuning. The ride will begin at Millersylvania State Park just south of Olympia off I-5. The park is a nice setting to gather before and after the ride for some conversation, show and tell, and a bit of car trunk swapping (so bring some goodies!). The ride will take us through a mixture of unbroken forest and pastoral farmlands along the Skookumchuck River. It has minimal hills to encourage all types of cycles (and cyclists) to attend. The total elevation gain for the 34 mile ride is around 1000 feet. Please send a reply if you plan to attend in order for me to make proper preparations. See you there!
>
>Directions to Millersylvania State Park:
>I-5 exit #95, take Maytown Road SW east for 2.6 miles, then turn north on Tilley Road SW, and reach the park in another 0.8 mile.
>
>Kind regards,
>Troy Warnick
>Olympia, WA
>
>
>
>See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar
>http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_020201/splash.asp
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 6
>From: wjs22@att.net
>To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org (CR)
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:29:27 +0000
>Subject: [CR]27" X 32 hole rims, I need help!!!
>
>I have been working to restore my 1978 Viscount and am
>down to needing a set of rims that are 27"X 32 holes. My
>main LBS has had my hubs for 2 months now and told me
>today that the rim I seek is beyond hard to find and may
>not exist. They claim that 2 sets of rims have been
>shipped to them (Ritchey and Sun) and that both were the
>wrong size. I have talked to a few other LBSs' today and
>thye have shied away from the my dilema. I have a good
>set of Shimano 600 hubs that I want to use on this bike.
>Does any list member know where I can get my hands on
>27" 32 hole rims or am I going to have to find a 36 hole
>set of hubs for the completion of this project? The rims
>do not need to be period correct. If I fail with the
>32's any list member have a 36 hole set of shimano or
>suntour hubs FS?
>
>Thanks for help,
>
>Bill Stitt, Darlington, PA
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:57:17 -0800
>From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net
>To: Classic Rendez-vous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Subject: Re: [CR]Web Sites
>
>Ashley Hill wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone...
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had a web site that I could chack out and maybe link to, I'm always on the lookout for new information and/or ideas. Thanx,
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>My collection of favorite bike web sites is listed at:
>http://www.velo-retro.com
>
>Probably the most esoteric is this collection of bottom bracket shots
>(kind of lascivious actually):
>
>This Charming Bike -- B.B.Mania
>http://www2.inforyoma.or.jp/~tadokoro/bb/bb1.html
>
>Chuck Schmidt
>SoPas, SoCal
>
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>
>Message: 8
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:07:05 -0700
>From: "Mark A. Perkins" <bicyclemark@juno.com>
>Subject: [CR]Meteor bicycle information wanted
>
>Hello List members:
>
>I am inquiring for a friend in Visalia, Calif. who recently purchased a
>Meteor road bike which has a made in Worksop decal on one of the tubes.
>I have seen the frame and fork, and it appears to be of high quality and
>made from Reynolds 531. The frame's finish is a transparent royal blue
>over a completely chromed frame (like OLMO did way back when...). There
>are numerous decals with some impressive European professional races
>named on them, and a metal head badge. Personally, this is the first
>Meteor bicycle I can remember seeing. One thing I do know, and have
>learned from this list, is that Worksop is the place where Raleigh
>Professional bicycles were built (if I have remembered correctly).
>
>Can anyone on this list offer a little history on this bicycle?
>
>In the future I will try to get better information about all of the
>decals, their placement and what they say and look like, as well as what
>the components are (he bought the whole bike). However, any information
>that anyone out there can offer is better than what we have at this
>point.
>
>There must be someone from the UK who can offer something.
>
>"Bicycle Mark" Perkins
>Fresno Cycling Club - Historian
>in the sunny, 65 degree San Joaquin Valley, Fresno, California, U.S.A.
>(sorry all of you in colder climes, but it's looking like a great day for
>cycling here)
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 9
>From: "Jim McCoin" <j.mccoin@attbi.com>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:33:35 -0700
>Subject: [CR]more tubular tires
>
>Greetings Listmembers , years ago there was a tube or liquid rubber =
>available for filling in nicks and small cuts in tire treads,
>is there something like that available these days?
>Jim ( just patched my first tubular in 20 years ) McCoin
>Fremont Ca.
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:49:02 -0100
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>From: "Harvey M. Sachs" <sachs@erols.com>
>Subject: [CR]FS: Gitane mixte and others
>
>With the recent purchase of a Ted Williams Sport Special (!), something has
>to give. Your gain is my loss, yada, yada. In any event, Bottom Feeders
>Unanimous (BFU), Northern Virginia Chapter, will bring the following
>delectables from our mushroom-growing area to Cirque:
>
>AustroDaimler frame, 21" (53.5 cm) c-t, Bocama lugs and Shimano drop-outs,
>no fork, very light, all threading intact, and totally covered with medium
>green paint with sags and wrinkles (you should see the cranks). $21.50 at
>Cirque.
>
>Gitane Mixte, in lovely blue, with tourist bars, Mafac plastic levers,
>etc. All Huret, All the time. Seems to be totally original (including
>rough tires) (except for the plastic spoke protector), probably from
>1970s. The bike your Mom thought your Dad would get her. Almost no
>scratches even, washed up nicely. $75.
>
>Viscount/Lambert frame and death fork, fatally damaged bb threads, no parts
>to speak of. best described as a nice $20 conversation piece. Will take
>less to keep from bringing it back.
>
>Harvey Sachs,
>McLean VA
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:13:13 -0100
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>From: "Harvey M. Sachs" <sachs@erols.com>
>Subject: [CR]Moulton Series 1 for Sale
>
>Moulton Series 1, full suspension small-wheel touring bike, 1960s.
>completely updated: 16*1-3/8 hp tires on alloy rims, Sachs 3*7 drive with
>Stronglight 93 cranks (some choice of chainrings), wonderful Altenberger
>dual pivot brakes, alloy bars, MTB levers, both racks, both fenders,
>kick-stand, spare rear fork, extra frame (incomplete folder). Original
>paint, mostly, but really ugly. Refinish to your heart's desire! By the
>way, a great bike polo ride. $350 delivered at Cirque. 703-848-8137
>evenings,
>
>Harvey Sachs, McLean VA,
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 12
>To: tr4play@cox.net
>Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:38:58 -0700
>Subject: Re: [CR]Hi-E Help??
>From: "Mark A. Perkins" <bicyclemark@juno.com>
>
>Hi Eric:
>
>After reading the response, from Harvey Sachs, to your questions about
>Hi-E hubs, I thought I would add a few things.
>
>Number one, they are not obsolete, yet !
>
>However, as reported on this list within the last 12 months, the company
>is for sale. I had Harlan Meyer, in Nashville, TN, re-build a 32-hole
>(small barrel) front hub for me just a few months ago, and he also
>replaced the center barrel with a nice violet anodized one. I also spoke
>with Harlan on the phone as he needed to clarify what I wanted done to my
>hub, and he confirmed his desire to sell Hi-E.
>
>Since then, I have been contemplating sending all of my other Hi-E hubs
>to Harlan for overhaul because I'm not sure if Hi-E will be around much
>longer.
>
>Number two, I believe the black center barrel on your hub would be a
>later offering. By later I'm not sure how much later I mean, but I don't
>recall any color besides natural polished aluminum being offered during
>the early '70's. My guess is that it is probably from the '80's. Also,
>the 24/16 hole rear spoke hole variation is a standard offering, which I
>believe is still offered, along with a few other odd patterns, to this
>day.
>
>I still use the first Hi-E hub that I ever purchased, on my Jack Taylor
>curve-tube, laced to a Super Champion Medalle de Or tubular rim with 28
>thin gauge double-butted spokes. Mind you, I don't ride this bike much
>any more due to increased rider weight. And, contrary to many other
>people's opinions, I have never had a problem with a Hi-E hub. Early on
>in their history, there were reports of flanges pulling apart on the 36
>hole, TT front hub, laced radially. I later learned that the design of
>the flange had been beefed-up to eliminate this problem. Gary Klein used
>them on Klein bicycles in the late '70's quite extensively.
>
>I once had a pair of Hi-E rims though, and can't say the same for their
>durability. I really don't think Hi-e rims were intended for daily use
>though. I used a 40 hole hub and rim on the rear of my JT curve tube for
>a while, but the rear wheel never stopped creaking, probably from the
>added weight over the rear wheel due to the curved seat tube. The
>aluminum used to make these rims was extremely thin compared to anything
>else. I think the rivets used to hold the rims together all the way
>around, including the ones with the nipple hole in the center, made up
>for most of the rim's weight.
>
>I currently use a 32 hole pair of Hi-E hubs on my personal road bike,
>laced into Campagnolo Lambda Strada silver aero
>rims. The front is the one I had re-built because of a single rider
>involved crash (due to brain fade) which required the rim to be replaced,
>and bent the end of the axle a bit. I figured sending it to Harlan was
>the best choice
>
>One of my favorite Hi-E components though were the spoke nipples. A pain
>in the back-side if you needed to true a wheel, because they didn't
>protrude through to the spoke side of the rim, They were aluminum, and
>had a hex head which was accessed from the tire-side of the rim with a
>special hex-socket spoke wrench. Somewhere I still have a bag of those
>nipples, and I still have the spoke wrench in my tool box.
>
>Finally, I believe one can still purchase a new set of hubs directly from
>Hi-E, if so inclined. I didn't have any trouble making contact with
>Harlan using long distance information this year.
>
>Regards,
>
>"Bicycle Mark" Perkins
>Fresno Cycling Club - Historian
>Fresno, California, U.S.A.
>
>
>On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 07:51:54 -0400 "Eric Elman" <tr4play@cox.net> writes:
>> My bike experience and knowledge is based on a foundation of French,
>just
>> beginning to get competent with with Campagnolo, and now I need help
>with
>> Hi-E!
>>
>> At Copake last week I picked up a set of Hi-E hubs. Here's the spec's
>and
>> my questions:
>>
>> Front: low flange, all silver flanges and center, "Hi-E" etched in
>center, 16h per side.
>>
>> Rear: High flange (almost 3"), all silver flanges and center with
>"Hi-E"
>> etched in center, threaded for a freewheel, 126mm, 24h on drove side
>and 16h
>> on other.
>>
>> So, are these early hubs or recent hubs, about what year? I've seen a
>set
>> with black centers so assume thses are older?
>>
>> Is the hi-flange rear uncommon as I've never seen another?
>>
>> Why a hi-flange rear and low front?
>>
>> Why 16/24h on the rear and how would that be laced up to a 40h rim?
>>
>> These are very light - are they durable and good to use for an everyday
>bike
>> or are do they lack durability and should only be used for races?
>>
>> How do/did they compare on cost & quality to say Phil hubs and
>campagnolo
>> Record?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Hi-E(ric) Hi-E(lman)
>> Somers, CT that had an earthquake this morning at 6:53am
>>
>>
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