Re: [CR]snubbed by the experts


Example: Racing:Beryl Burton

To: gapple@nvt.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 12:33:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR]snubbed by the experts
From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>


i want to chime in the the decal 'issue' which is now a tangent of the 'snubbed' thread. i know industry folks who have deep decal inventorys and won't sell decals seperately, and i know folks that have them and will sell them as a goodwill gesture. (if i'm not mistaken, there was a list search for bianchi decals a while back...) i can see the motivation behind both types of reasoning. the manufactures, generally, are not in the business of supplying restoration and archive materials relevant to decades old bicycles. bicycles-as-collectibles-worth restoring are a fairly recent phenomenom in the scheme of things. someday, maybe, bicycle makers will, in fact, regenerate some old art and act as the source for these pursuits. until that time comes, some people _within-the industry_ have done all of the work and spent the money to bring some of the older decals back to life. some of these people have done so simply to enhance the restoration/renovation parts of their paint business rather than to sell the decals seperately. these guys are in that business, not the decal business. i can see their motivation and i don't begrudge them. i don't see it as a $500 decal but a complete gound-up restoration. seperately, i also know that some paint shops are less rigid and will sell their decals, though they won't advertise and say, 'WE SELL DECALS". be persistant. the supplies are there and can be had. if you get stymied, you can always make your own for private use. it takes longer and costs more, but you won't have any personality conflicts if you go this route. e-RICHIE chester

On Sun, 12 May 2002 08:55:20 -0700 Guy Apple <gapple@nvt.com> writes:
> Further to that well noted comment.
>
> I have a list member friend. He was recently trying to fine a frame
>
> decal for a frame set. He e-mailed around, and he called around only
>
> to find that no decal supplier would supply a decal without
> conditions. They obviously had the decal but would not part with
> one.
> Why? I call it the "I have got mine" syndrome. These people had the
>
> decals, but would not part with them unless my friend refinished the
>
> entire frame. How about $500 for a decal? It is always their choice
>
> as sellers, but it sets a tone for the CR community that, in my
> humble opinion...stinks.
>
> Very self centered in a community that is noted for helping on
> another without an attitude.
>
> Not good.
>
> A bit of constructive self analysis is a healthy thing. We can
> change.
>
> Guy Apple
> Sunnyvale, California
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