[CR]snubbed by the experts

Example: Racing:Beryl Burton

Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 17:39:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neill Currie <neill1234@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Cc: Philcycles@aol.com
Subject: [CR]snubbed by the experts

In a message dated 5/12/02 7:55:49 AM, gapple@nvt.com writes:

<< I have a list member friend. He was recently trying to fine a frame decal for a frame set. He e-mailed around, and he

called around only to find that no decal supplier would supply a decal without conditions. They obviously had the decal but would not part with one. Why? I call it the "I have got mine" syndrome. These people had the decals, but would not part with them unless my friend refinished the entire frame. How about $500 for a decal? It is always their choice as sellers, but it sets a tone for the CR community that, in my humble opinion...stinks. >>

Sorry, couldn't disagree more. How does the decal

supplier know that the decal isn't being used on the right frame? Sad to

say, misrepresentation is rife in cycling, and I don't mean the obvious ones like Cinelli decals on Winsors. Plus, who are you to determine how a person uses his property? My decals go only to painters that I can trust. If one of those painters started spreading decals around (not necessarily my own) I'd sure have second thoughts about them. And it doesn't stink. What stinks is that you feel that you have some sort of right to another's property because you belong to

a "community." You don't. Phil Brown A little testy after today's F1 race and going out to build a bike in NoHo, Ca ----------------- I think I understand the need to be honest, and to minimise the possibility of fraud. However, all this begs the question: If I show the frame that I need a decal for, to a "trusted" painter/restorer, so they can see that I am not trying to hoodwink anyone...........then why can't I get a decal stuck on that frame without having to get the full $350 to $500 repaint?? I would be happy to pay the market value of the decal, plus a figure for application and verification of the frame. I have tried to suggest exactly this process to a frame restoration service, that is very highly regarded, and no dice. Never even considered as an option by them. Seems to me, that the lure of the $$ is a wee bit stronger than the desire to run a scrupulous business, in this case.

===== The Bicyclist formerly known as Neill Currie, Portland, Me 04102, USA. The Mountain Goat website is at: http://www.geocities.com/neill1234/index.html?1011568933040 Mountain Goat Frameset or complete bike still wanted, 20 to 21.5 inches c to t, other goatish stuff also wanted. Mountain Goat Mailing list is at: http://www.topica.com/lists/mountain.goat I have repro Mountain Goat decal sets for sale.