Re: [CR]Re: [CR-Cuevas

(Example: Production Builders:Pogliaghi)

From: "John Pergolizzi" <jtperry@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Jerry & Liz Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, <LouDeeter@aol.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <195.902a75a.2a506eba@aol.com> <014001c22046$1985bdb0$efddfea9@mooshome>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: [CR-Cuevas
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:40:32 -0400


Last Year I got a call from J.P Weigle He was helping Joe Bell in locating Cuevas decals for a repaint. After a few phone calls ,I was able to locate a nephew of Andreas Cuevas, son of Francisco in Queens N.Y.. Unfortunitly, Andreas,@ 54 years old ,had suffered a stroke @ 1 1/2 years before.He is going to rehabilitation therapy and hopes to again build frames. His production was perhaps 200 to 300 frames total.
      Pop is retired and living in Spain. The reputation of his work, although beautiful , is not great. At least not in my neck of the woods. Had 2,broke one. Minor: brake bridge crack. Mike Frasie, owner of Paris-Sport in Ridgefield Park,N.J. and then Pres. of the U.S.C.F., told me in 1981, after Francisco had departed, that HALF of Cuavas' frames broke. F.C. built in the rear of the store. F.C was followed by Dave Molton.(Before "Fuso") .
      Back in 79 ,I stood behind F.C and watched him build my road frame. Can you say "cherry red"? Real pretty though. You know you got one when you see the "X" reinforcement in the stearer tube/ fork crown.
        At the time,Andreas did the painting. Just my experiance. John T.Pergolizzi, after 50 mi. in Prospect Park, Brooklyn N.Y.


----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry & Liz Moos
To: LouDeeter@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: [CR-Cuevas



> My understanding is that his son is now building the bikes, just as Masi's
> son is (though the name rights are more confused in the Masi case) and as
> Singer's son-in-law? builds Singers. Having the bikes continue in
> production, particularly by a close family member who was presumably trained
> by the original builder, probably reduces the perceived scarcity factor
> which is one thing that leads to high prices.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <LouDeeter@aol.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 9:24 AM
> Subject: [CR]Re: [CR-Cuevas
>
>
> > In a message dated 6/30/2002 10:13:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net writes:
> >
> >
> > > the fact that their
> > > original builders are long dead and the bikes are no longer produced,
> while
> > > one can still order a new Cuevas.
> >
> > You can't buy a new Cuevas made by Francesco, just like you can't buy a
> new
> > Masi made by Faliero. The decal may be the same, but the frame isn't.
> Lou
> > Deeter, Orlando FL