Re: I: [CR]groups

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From: Jerry & Liz Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: "nelson miller" <nelsmiller@msn.com>, <bill_bryant@prodigy.net>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <F8NTmgEVg3UcXHFMJvQ0000ddbe@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: I: [CR]groups
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 08:52:00 -0500


At a shop on the Costa del Sol a couple of years ago, I was looking at a new Zeus bike (made by a completely different company, but the name still seems to have some cachet in Spain). I was struggling with my lack of Spanish and his lack of English, but I thought he pronounced it with one syllable, not two. Of course, the name is Greek (the Greek king of the gods) so I wonder how the Greeks pronounce it.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Houston, TX


----- Original Message -----
From: nelson miller
To: bill_bryant@prodigy.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: I: [CR]groups


Group-- While listening to a talk by Dr. Porsche years ago, he mentioned that he "did not understand the Americans, who would spennd so much money on a car and not know how to pronounce it"! (Por-sha, with two syllables)

Also, I believe that Zeus is properly pronounced ZA-us.

And lastly, CamPEE is CampaG in Great Britian.

Nelson Miler-- Seattle (Not far from Puyallup, WA)


>From: Bill Bryant


>To:


>Subject: Re: I: [CR]groups
>Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 14:43:17 -0700
>
>And while we're at it, when discussing short, multi-lap bicycle races on
>city streets, could folks please stop using the word "crit" for "criterium"?
>(It's not really a big problem here on CR, but a revolution needs to start
>somewhere... If you see or hear the crude term being used, take the time to
>politely demonstrate the proper term so the unwise can learn the errors of
>their ways.)
>
>In any case, this lazy bastardization of the French term makes me think the
>American dolts who use the short version are being overly challenged by
>having to remember too many syllables. What if they referred to their gear
>changing mechanisms as a front or rear "dur"? Ick! :-(
>
>Besides, no one speaks about their Masi "Grand Crit", do they?
>(If the answer is yes, then maybe their bike should be put into foster care
>with an owner that will treat it better.)
>
>Grumpily yours,
>Bill Bryant
>Santa Cruz, CA
>
>
>on 7/3/02 12:57 PM, Richard M Sachs at richardsachs@juno.com wrote:
>
> > hear, hear...
> > (here, here?).
> > well said, steven!
> >
> > no more 'campy'. i'm with you.
> > campagnolo. PLEASE!
> >
> > e-RICHIE
> > chester, ct
> >
> > On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 15:34:51 -0500 The Maaslands
> > writes:
> >> Mark,
> >>
> >> The use of 'groupo' or 'grouppo' also irk me, but nowhere near as
> >> much as
> >> the use of 'campy'. Campagnolo, further to being a company
> >> respected
> >> throughout the world is also a family name, would you like to be
> >> called
> >> Bulgy? Furthermore the 'g' combines with the 'n' to give a 'nyee'
> >> sound in
> >> Italian.
> >>
> >> Steven "not Masi unless you provide me the bike" Maasland
> >> Moorestown, NJ
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Mark Bulgier


> >> To:


> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:10 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [CR]groups
> >>
> >>
> >>> Is the word groupo (or grouppo) accepted usage now? I sure don't
> >> like it,
> >>> retrogrouch that I am. Is it used tongue-in-cheek maybe?
> >>>
> >>> In Italian it's gruppo, in English it's group. I don't know what
> >> it is in
> >>> Japanese but it isn't groupo!
> >>>
> >>> Mark "Groucho" Bulgier
> >>> Seattle, Wa
> >>> USA
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