Re: [CR] Of Campagnolo Brake Levers and their shapes

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To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:27:55 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR] Of Campagnolo Brake Levers and their shapes
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


i have the benotto catalog. i have the old levers in stock. i have the new ones too. the curve difference can be deceiving, tho' it exists. the 'giveaway' is the amount of material at the top of the blade. when they added material, the lever's geometry became. in essence, a shorter reach lever. e-RICHIE chester, CT

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> With all due respect, I think the giveaway is visible from
> virtually any angle. The major dimensional difference may be in the
> angle at the top of the blade, but the curves are different and the
> width of the blade is different. There was a Benotto catalog that
> also depicted a long-reach SR lever, I'll try to find a link.
> Tom Dalton
> Bethlehem, PA
> Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> wrote: delayed reply...
> greg's right. that's why i think the pic of the
> raleigh with sr levers is deceiving; the 'giveaway'
> is not visible from the perspective that the picture
> was shot in.
> e-RICHIE
> still in chesta'
>
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:10:46 EDT GPVB1@cs.com writes:
> > Also, the distance from the top of the logo border on the front of
>
> > the lever
> > stamping (weren't they stamped?) is much less on the early lever,
> as
> > they
> > just left more material on the finished lever to make the later
> > style..... I
> > just measured a pair of each, and the distances are 4mm and 6.5 mm
>
> > respectively on the parts I checked. Very visible to the eye, even
>
> > more so if
> > you have one of each style to observe side by side.
> >
> > Personally, I've never seen early-type ("long-reach") Production
> SR
> > brake
> > levers. I'm fairly confident that they had made that change before
>
> > SR
> > debuted. Also, I assume folks know that the holes were pierced in
>
> > the SR
> > levers before forming, and that the SR lever is slightly heavier
> > than an "N"
> > R due to thicker material to make up for the weakening due to the
>
> > holes!!
> >
> > Greg Parker
> > A2 MI USA
> >
> >
> > From: Tom Dalton
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [CR]Of Campagnolo Brake Levers and their shapes
> > > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Like I said, maybe I'm just imagining this...
> > > But seriously, I think the difference is not at all subtle and
> can
> > be
> > > easily seen whether or not the lever is mounted in the body or
> the
> > body is
> > > on the bar, or whatever. The lower end of the older lever is
> more
> > pointy,
> > > the compound curve is more dramatic (like a higher amplitude
> sine
> > wave).
> > > Tom Dalton
> > > Bethlehem, PA
> >
> >
> >
> > > Richard M Sachs wrote: i don't think you
> > can tell
> > > the lever 'type' from the radius.
> > > the main giveaway is evident when the blade is
> > > not in the body; the shape of the casting at its
> > > uppermost point is very different.
> > > e-RICHIE
> > > chester...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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