Brian Baylis wrote:
> It's a bit dofficult to tell from the photos but my quess is it's an
> Ital Vega. It obviously has Italian BB threads or else they couldn't
> have put the BB in backwards. Furthermore, whoever did that decal job
> should be shot. This is not uncommon on eBay. Someone tries to give
> people an impression that is completely false. That bike is a POS with a
> bunch of nice parts hanging on it. That is shameless in my book. Whoever
> the "builder/restorer" of fine Italian bikes is that is presenting this
> stuff needs to cease.
>
> That bike is NOT a Cinelli. How on earth does someone debate that, it's
> way too obvious.
You are mixing up two threads. There is a first one where there is a fully
equipped bike with Campagnolo decals and the wrongly threaded BB (see:
http://ebay.com/<blah>
you may be right that it could be an Italvega or other run of the mill
Italian or pseudo-Italian bike. The second thread is related to another
frame being sold (see:
http://ebay.com/<blah>
that Richard Sachs and Jim Merz are correct in guessing that this second one
is a Windsor. This other frame does have a few Cinelli design hints. Lastly,
to make things even more confusing, there is a third frame up for sale where
the vendor makes allusions to Cinelli in their description (see:
http://ebay.com/<blah>
has a Cinelli-marked BB shell, a layman could be excused a link to Cinelli.