Re: [CR]Another "odd" lightweight frame design.......

(Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor)

Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:30:07 +0100
Subject: Re: [CR]Another "odd" lightweight frame design.......
From: "Bob Reid" <bob.reid1@virgin.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <F216vaetzAktCTF2Wrb00006d45@hotmail.com>


Hugh Thornton wrote,
> I would venture to suggest that these stays are
> totally pointless except for some possible value as a marketing gimmick.
> The extra weight will enable you to go imperceptibly faster downhill to
> partially compensate you for the effort of carrying them uphill in the first
> place.

Without VCC membership, I'm keen to understand what this assumption is based on ? or is contribution to the VCC's funds a compulsory with membership of the list, and a pre-requisite for an informed answer ?

David Rattray's were never ones for frivolous additions and there must have been some thought / logic behind their use wether real or perceived. The company had no need to use gimmicks to sell machines nor any real advertising for that matter at any time over 60+ years of production, but were obviously not immune to providing these "customer" specified oddities. As to the additional weight ? it's entirely negligible given that we are talking about two 3 inch length of hollow tube here.

So what was the point of the similar stays on the Southall machine ?

Bob Reid Stonehaven Scotland


>
> Hugh Thornton
> Nantwich, England
>
>> From: Bob Reid <bob.reid1@virgin.net>
>> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Subject: [CR]Another "odd" lightweight frame design.......
>> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:31:40 +0100
>>
>> But this time it's Scottish !
>>
>> As much input as possible (theory or fact) would be appreciated on this
>> frame ;
>>
>> http://www.flying-scot.co.uk/page62.html
>>
>> Though dating from 1949, at first It doesn't look particularly unusual,
>> until you notice it has two more tubes than usual !.
>>
>> Is this just another "funny" frame with peculiar ideas ?. Something makes
>> me think I've seen this treatment of the seat stays done before, but about
>> the only benefit I can see from doing it, is to stiffen the ultrathin
>> pencil
>> seat stays in reaction to the forces under hard braking.....but I'm sure
>> one
>> of the framebuilders on the list will tell me different !
>>
>> Bob Reid
>> Stonehaven
>> Scotland