RE: [CR]re: pogliaghi on ebay,,,,,,,,,dead in the 80s?

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From: "Dave Patrick" <Patrick@aardvark-pro.com>
To: "'nelson miller'" <nelsmiller@msn.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]re: pogliaghi on ebay,,,,,,,,,dead in the 80s?
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:32:15 -0400
In-Reply-To: <OE52vZT9bjR7DSucS8000014a0d@hotmail.com>


Well, if I may chime in, I think this is clearly a sales ploy. This bike was just acquired on the German Ebay site by Carsten and then upon receipt Carsten quickly relisted it on the primary U.S. Ebay site. It really has nothing to do with his superb collection of bikes, although the Pog is perhaps viewed by Carsten as a revenue generator, allowing him to buy more goodies. Carsten is very active in the buying and selling of bikes and components, and I'm sure he's not doing it for his health and well-being. But also keep in mind, it's taken the CR list three days or so to definatively pin down the end of Sante's tenure with the Pog shop and the sale to Rossin. Carsten most likely made his statements thinking they were the truth, but also in an effort to pump up the interest a bit.

Dave Patrick Chelsea, Michigan

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of nelson miller Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:51 PM To: Bikerdaver@aol.com; tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]re: pogliaghi on ebay,,,,,,,,,dead in the 80s?

Group--- Considering the collection that Carsten has put together, and the amount of knoweledge that he seems to have, I would personally tread extremely lightly on any criticism of his ebay listing. If indeed it is erroneous, I am quite sure that this would not be a deliberate sales ploy on Carsten's behalf............. Cheers-- Nelson Miller-- Seattle


----- Original Message -----
From: Bikerdaver@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:36 AM
To: tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp
Subject: Re: [CR]re: pogliaghi on ebay,,,,,,,,,dead in the 80s?


Takao- Thanks for getting back to me. The only thing I can say is that I must be the one who is mistaken. Someone else mentioned that the book, "The Custom Bicycle" gives a date of when Sante would turn over the reigns to Rossin. If anybody has that book, I would like to see exactly what it said. Cheers, Dave Anderson Cut Bank MT

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Hello Dave,
    The interview was on a Japanese book " The bicyccle workshops in Italy". My memory was not correct. It was published in 1994. The interview seems to have been done in early 1990s. For it told he was near 80 years old and he was born in 1913.
    I don't know whether the author, Yuzuru Sunada,is very reliable or not, but I cannot think the interview was totally a fake.
    According to the book, Pogliaghi was sold to Rossin in 1983 and to Basso in 1989.
                       Takao Noda
                Hachioji Tokyo Japan


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> From: <A HREF="mailto:Bikerdaver@aol.com">Bikerdaver@aol.com</A>
> To: <A HREF="mailto:tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp">tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp</A> ; <A HREF="mailto:classicrendezvous@bikelist.org">classicrendezvous@bikelist.org< /A>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]re: pogliaghi on ebay,,,,,,,,,dead in the 80s?
>
> Takao-
> Many years ago I recall reading a "Bicycling" magazine article stating that
> he died in February 1981. With all due respect, I believe one of us is
> wrong.
> Dave Anderson
> Cut Bank MT
>
> In a message dated 8/27/02 7:57:45 PM PST, <A HREF="mailto:tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp">tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp</A> writes:
> >> Sante Pogliaghi was alive in mid 1980s. I read an interview with him in
>> mid or late 1980s.
>> Takao Noda
>> Hachioji Tokyo Japan