Excuse me Ted,
I hope you learned a little something from my original post which stated I wanted to see if anyone else found it MISLEADING that the items were not as intended. In the response to my question I learned thanks to Dale and others offlist that the derailleurs are indeed not NR also, they are victory or triumph which was something I didn't know. Therefore I learned some classic content. There was nothing grade school in my post...nor the responses that I read. I read a email passed on to the group saying, "This is misleading could you please check into it." that was sent to the individual with the auction. What if someone were buying this items based on the idea they were getting some killer components for the deal...only to find they have lower end items. I for one as I mentioned above did not know nor can I tell my NR from my SR from other campy items from earlier and just learned something today. You feel you are not learning. I haven't seen anyone complain in months about th! e Japanese ebay prices or so on. I saw it briefly for a few days and that was it but that was ages ago. I took your comment to be directed at me and I didn't feel anything in the initial post was childlike or useless. At the same time you put in your digs regarding childlike rhetoric while making statements like "Bozo CR members", "CR elitists", "merry little note"...all to poke jabs at the group. I think I am learning something else now, our comments are grade school level while your are...sophmoric.
Walt F.C., Pa
WickedSky@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1-7-01, OROBOYZ writes:
Those also are certainly not NR derailleurs! Looks like Triomphe or Victory to me, which still are the black sheep of the campy line... Maybe this is a special Bologna-equipped bike....
Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina ______________________________________________________________________________
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01-07-02
Dale,
I signed up for the Classic Rendezvous discussion group a couple of months back in hopes that this was a positive open forum in which vintage bicycle enthusiasts worldwide could come together to discuss vintage bicycles and more specifically share information regarding vintage parts. Unfortunately, it has been anything but that.
I receive one ridiculous email after another from elitist members who are upset with ebay auctions. Stop for a minute and reread the comments that YOU posted for CR regarding this guy trying to sell his Bianchi (ebay auction #1058273341). You make a couple of grade-school level comments (to the CR group) regarding the parts on this guys bike. Then you write a merry little note to the guy who is selling this bike. This is not your auction, so where do you get off sending your "corrections" to this guy?
Another thing that bothers me are all of the Bozo CR members who have problems that involve items on ebay that have sold to the people of Japan for what US citizens believe to be outrageous prices. The Japanese people have good reason to spend the kind of money they do on the parts they are interested in and it is no one in the United States' business what the people of Japan want to buy or are willing to pay for a bicycle part. Did it ever occur to anyone that the bicycle is the primary source of transportation in Japan? And with that did it ever occur to anyone that the people of Japan may have a greater sense of passion for their bicycles than us weekend warriors?
One good thing has come out of all of this. And that is I now have incentive to start my own vintage bicycle discussion group that will not be governed by silly rules and filled with childlike rhetoric. And if 550 members is all you can gather worldwide, I would say something is definitely wrong.................
REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST
Ted E. Baer
Palo Alto, CA