Re: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models

(Example: Framebuilding:Paint)

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:40:49 -0800
From: "Brian Baylis" <rocklube@adnc.com>
To: "J.Dunn" <bikehunter@icehouse.net>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models
References: <F151wSif8evXjj1dfnm0001dc07@hotmail.com> <a05100337b86950f468e3@[63.46.191.64]> <034701c19d87$2dc7d020$461bfea9@pacbell.net>


John,

Albert has always been down on older frames strictly from a standpoint of there is nothing in it for him. The Italians (Alberto Masi comes to mind) are like this as well. They don't understand what we see in this stuff.

I called Albert when I was persuing my 1962 Masi Special that he gave to his former wife as a wedding gift, and I had to use a crow bar just to get the smallest bit of information about the past of this bike. We know each other well, but it doesn't seem to matter to him; he just isn't into it. I mentioned to him the frame of his I had and mentioned I'd like to have another one if he ran into one; and he just laughed at me. That's just the way Uncle Albert is.

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA
>
> "Buying an old bike is no bargin at any price. Any part of the
> bike may be ready to fail.
>
> Albert Eisentraut"
>
> Jeez, what an optimist. ;-) No bargain at any price?? This is, at least,
> the second well known and respected framebuilder that has expressed the
> opinion that collecting their work and putting a great value on an old bike,
> just because they made it, is rather foolish. Truth or false modesty, you
> think?
>
> John Dunn in Boise, who has a lot of nice old bikes, not nearly as desirable
> as an Eisentraut, and doesn't think any of them is on the point of failure
> (he said, as the fork fell off ;-).
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DB <db@home-work.com>
> To: kevin gosney <kevingosney10@hotmail.com>;
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:32 PM
> Subject: [CR]Re: Eisentraut models
>
> > I asked Mr. Eisentraut some similar questions a few months ago and I
> > don't think he would mind me sharing his informative reply with the
> > CR group (see below). Note the last couple of sentences. I had
> > contacted him because I had questions on a used Limited that I had
> > acquired. Watch out for those used bikes!