Richard:
Thanks for your reply.
Okay, now you might say I'm totally nuts here, but I think Campy may have made three reaches of block-logo calliper arms. I have no "normal" reach callipers in my possession, but I remember what they look like and I remember that they were spec'd. as being about 10mm longer than the short reach. Of my two sets of arms, one set is a few mm shorter than the other. If you assemble one arm of each size onto a center bolt, they do not meet up when you bring the ends together. The difference is not as large as with the normal-reach short-reach difference. I'd say it's about 3 or 4 mm. If you give a s*&! about this I can measure the difference tonight. I will also note which arm has which marking.
Also, I have noticed that the cross section of the arms did vary (script logo changes aside). It seems like the arms became more slender (and shinier) in the later block logo models.
By the way, it seems to me that in addition to being one of the world's best classic framebuilders, you may be the leading authority on changes in NR and SR parts. Do you keep a record of your observations? I try to keep notes when I find variations in markings, etc. but it's pretty much a jumble. I have seen lots of "differences" that never get acknowledged by most collectors, but it is nearly impossible to decipher the actual dates of these changes and difficult to even put them into sequence.
Tom Dalton
> they abbreviated the 'inter' to 'int.' when they
> went from
> normal reach to short reach. what i mean is when
> they added the short reach to the product line.
> there's
> not enough room for all the letters in the shorter
> arms.
> there are a very few short reach to be found that
> say 'brev. inter'. are they the rarest of the rare?
>
> re: the cams. my oldest boxed sets from 1970 or
> so have the cams that say 'brev. camp.' around the
> perimeter.
> so do my mid 70s short reach sets. but i have many
> that say
> 'campagnolo' spelled out around the perimeter and
> 'brev.' horizontally across the middle and these
> sets are
> normal reach/flat skewer/uncoated wheel guides/world
> logo hoods making these earlier rather than later.
> my guess is both markings ran concurrently.
> that's all i know.
> e-RICHIE
> n.r.f.b.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:48:23 -0800 (PST) Tom Dalton
> <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> writes:
> > I have a few questions about the timing of changes
> to
> > Campy Record (and Super Record) brake sets around
> the
> > time of the CPSC changes. Any information that
> the
> > group can provide will be appreciated.
> >
> > 1) I have calliper arms that are marked "brev.
> int."
> > and others that are marked "brev. inter." Does
> anyone
> > know which is older and when the change took
> place?
> >
> > 2) I have QR cams (the part the QR lever attaches
> to)
> > that are marked "brev. camp." around the perimeter
> and
> > others that have "campagnolo" spelled out around
> the
> > perimeter and "brev." horizontally across the
> middle.
> > The second version is the older one. Does anyone
> know
> > if this change coincided with the flat-to-domed QR
> > lever change, or was it made at another time?
> >
> > 3) At what point in time did Campy start to
> include
> > lined cable housings in their brakesets? I
> remember
> > buying an SR brakeset in 1983 that had linings,
> but
> > I'm wondering how much futher back this goes.
> >
> > Thanks for considering these weighty questions.
> >
> > Tom Dalton
> > Bethlehem, PA
> >
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