FW: [CR]Re: Campag tools

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

From: "Jim Merz" <jimmerz@qwest.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: FW: [CR]Re: Campag tools
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:07:16 -0800

I have a full Campy tool kit with all the Italian, French and English cutters. I used this set during the time I built frames. IMH opinion the Campy tools have a high place in history, similar to NR parts. It is/was pretty obvious that someone else made these tools. But what Tulio did was to make an integrated tools (and parts) almost without regard to price, using the very best design, materials and processing methods available to him at the time. Other makers always assumed that the market would not pay for this over the top product, but he proved them wrong. Snap On Tool is very similar in this marketing approach.

When I first made frames I could not afford these high priced tools so I bought VAR. VAR tools did work, but they were not in the same league with Campy. Campy BB taps and other cutters are a work of art.

This is not to say there are no problems with Campy tools. I could list many things I would change. I am sure the modern Park tools reflect feedback from users in the USA so that they function very well. But they do not have the style of these wonderful old tools.

I look at bicycles as tools, and in the CR period Campy made the most beautiful parts to be used on bicycles in the world.

Jim Merz Bainbridge Is. WA

Brandon Ives <monkeylad@mac.com> wrote:On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 05:09 PM, John Pergolizzi wrote:
> Then use the Campy tool to press um in. NOT wood and the vise.
> NOT the
> ball peen hammer. NOT the Var .Not the Cobra. NOT the Nashbar. NOT
> the
> home made. THE CAMPY.

Uh, if you're using the Cobra you are using the Campagnolo tools. Cobra made the frame tools for Campy last I heard. I also don't quite understand the whole Campagnolo tool obsession, some of them are good some are not. None of the frame tools are on par with the new Park tools. The Campagnolo tool kit is cool and maybe 20+ years ago it was THE tool kit, but today it's just not of the accuracy or quality of many of the kits available. My old Bicycle Research headset mill is just as good as the Campy and half the price. ciao, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives SB, CA

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