Re: [CR]strange, nice hubs found - MAXI-CAR?

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From: "joel metz, ifbma/sfbma" <magpie@messengers.org>
Subject: Re: [CR]strange, nice hubs found - MAXI-CAR?
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:10:22 -0700

that certainly looks like a 1st generation maxi to me... ive seen only one other hub with blue instead of red dustcaps (image at http://www.blackbirdsf.org/magpie/maxicar/images/type2_high_blue_rear.jpg), and unfortunately for me, the significance of this difference has been lost in my brain somewhere...

its definitely a pre-1947/48 hub. what i cant decide is whether its a maxi, or a maxi-car. the orientation of the pinholes on the dustcaps is at 12/3/6/9 o'clock, where the pinholes on maxi-cars of the same era (at least the ones ive seen) are at 2/4/8/10 o'clock

i *think* early maxi-cars are engraved "maxi-car" - its my theory that sometime shortly after ww2, maxi (which made hubsets and drum brake hubs) and c.a.r. (which made hubs) merged in some form, and became maxi-car. thats the theory, at least, and im looking for confirmation...

id *love* to get more pictures of this hub for my infant maxi-car webpage (http://www.blackbirdsf.org/magpie/maxicar/)!

a fine purchase!

-joel
>I've been at the "Veterama" at Mannheim (south Germany) today, one
>of the biggest oldtimer part swap events in Europe. Mainly for
>vintage motorcycles and cars and only a tiny fraction bicycles and
>that mostly pre-war fat tyre stuff. Very Interesting, the motorcycle
>guys are really nuts.
>I've never seen so much black leather and hairs in my life. (Sheldon
>Brown would have been the best shaved man there). To bad I forgot my
>camera.
>Then suddenly there were these three belgians carrying the rest of
>an old belgian bicycle factory with them. I digged out a lot of NOS
>french stuff like 50s Simplex derailleurs (suicide shifters) or
>Mafac Cantilevers and two nice looking never laced hubs.
>One looks like a very old Maxi-Car front hub but seems to be made of
>three parts and has only "MAXI" engraved. Have I really bought a
>first generation NOS Maxi-Car for 5 Euros or were there cheaper
>copies/versions around?
>The other one is an ever better looking and finished english rear
>hub with oil injection port and more elaborate looking seals. It's
>engraved with "HARDEN ...Industries Notthingham...PAT.596173 MADE IN
>ENGLAND". It has 120mm sacing but a very long axle.
>I've put some pictures on http://home.t-online.de/home/dirk.feeken/HUBS.JPG
>Can anybody confirm that the first one is a Maxi-Car or has more
>info about the second one?
>
>thanks,
>Dirk
>
>
>
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