snipped: LouDeeter@aol.com writes: Is there a rule of thumb that framebuilders and pro shops use when deciding whether they can spread or not? Lou Deeter, Orlando FL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ spread other brands, not your own. e-RICHIE Richard Sachs Cycles No.9, North Main Street Chester, CT 06412 USA http://www.richardsachs.com Tel. 860.526.2059