NortonMarg@aol.com wrote: and I prefer their rebuildability.
Steven,
Could you elaborate on this? I have never actually met someone who rebuilt a Campy derailleur. They are certainly easy to overhaul and if for some reason you want to replace a spring or pulley or whatever, it's a breeze. However, the bodies on all but the latest NR/SR rears were riveted together with non-reusable peened or swaged pins, so replacing the pins and bushings to reduce the slop in the parallelogram must have been a chore. Have you ever done this? What are the results? When you add up the price of the parts, and factor in time, wouldn't it have been cheaper to buy a new unit? By the time this needed to be done, I would figure on replacing the pulleys, teh cage spindle bushing and maybe the springs. Doesn't it start to become less than cost-effective?
Tom Dalton
Bethlehem, PA
In a message dated 10/15/02 2:55:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sachs@erols.com writes:
<< I looked up to Campy from my first Sears with Campy Gran Sport in 1962. Until Frank Berto's tests, I never knew it was possible to design a derailleur that did not need to be overshifted and then brought back to the neutral point.>> So what? Remember that all the Japanese derailleurs shifted their best only when new. Performance then degraded AND they were impossible to rebuild so you got to buy a new one in about a year. So you have to overshift and then move the lever back? The motion quickly becomes second nature and the shift is instant and quiet if you get it right. The only "problem" as defined by Berto is that the Campy is a "late shifting" derailleur and doesn't work with index shifting, as that requires an early shifting derailleur.
< nicer than the same vintage super record. Is Mojo loving something despite its characteristics? >> That is a debatable value judgment, not a fact. Despite some quirky products, Tullio's contribution to cycling dwarfs Frank's. I have Berto's book and appreciate it, but Frank is not the ultimate authority. He and a number of his associates actively dislike Campagnolo products. I met them at the Velo Sport 40th anniversary party and their dislike of Campagnolo products approaches religious fervor. They are certainly allowed their preferences and are free to not use Campagnolo parts, however, my own experience of over 30 years of using the stuff is the exact opposite of theirs. EVERY time I put Japanese derailleurs on my bikes, I ended up putting the Campy ones back on. I PREFER the way they shift, I prefer their ruggedness, and I prefer their rebuildability. Stevan Thomas Alameda, CA _______________________________________________
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