Are only saints and folks we agree with welcome here? Seems like Mark has done more than some credit him for to keep tradition alive...a lot more than some of us to be sure. May I suggest we cool down a little and realize he has harmed none of us? Perhaps my perceptive is colored by the fact that I've never been smitten by Hetchins and I'd feel differently if I were a dyed in the wool fan. What I am saying is that the Holidays are upon us and perhaps a little slack could be cut by all. After all, we are all here because we love bikes and cycling. Tom Sanders Grinning at my new Scott Mathauser brake shoes even if it is snowing in Lansing, Mi