Re: [CR]NOW: this horse is different:was:This horse is dead

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From: "jack bissell" <jack_bissell@mac.com>
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]NOW: this horse is different:was:This horse is dead
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:12:05 -0800 (PST)

Chuck et al-

You have to love the exceptions though...those horses just making it by on life support.

Remember DeDe Demet's beautiful lugged Mariposa that she rode to a World Cup win this season? How about all the lugged steel track bikes under those Keirin racers? Oh yeah and Richie's winning 'cross bikes--(light, strong, fast, beautiful, repairable, comfortable, durable, soulful, and perhaps with better mud clearance?...)

Well those bikes all do carry a miniscule bit of extra weight I guess...so yes Chuck, you ARE right. (Also about the Gillott looking nice in the sun.)

FWIW Dave Bohm told me that a (853, etc.) steel front triangle is as light as the equivalent made of lightweight butted Ti, but the weight adds up in the BB shell and dropouts plus just a tiny bit in the stays. For a modern bike I'd like to hacksaw a Colnago C40 or Calfee (lots of us would!) and build it back up with some gleaming Metax stainless tubes...kinda like making a dead horse "cyborg".

Jack Bissell, missing all the great rides tomorrow in Ca. rainy Tucson, Az

On Saturday, Nov 30, 2002, at 09:41AM, Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote:


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>In a game of what-if I guess maybe Lance could have won on my 1955
>Gillott road with the Fleur de Lys lugs. The possibilities are endless.
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>The point is that the lugged steel frame is extinct in the pro peloton.
>And it has nothing to do with "marketing."
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>"Here Lance, ride this, it is slightly heavier... but it looks beautiful
>in the sunlight doesn't it?"
>
>Chuck "different horses for different courses" Schmidt

>SoPas, SoCal

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