Steven Maasland wrote:
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> Marc wrote:
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> The XA did away with the "sliding wedge" of the 1R, so slippage was no
> longer a problem, that I know of. I do ride an XA. Creaking was still a
> problem with Cinelli, but wasn't because of the stem, but rather the bar.
> Cinelli bars that incorporate a reinforced center sleeve are subject to
> creaking, not matter what year they were produced. Bulged centers is a much
> better idea............ala 3ttt. I agree.......for a rider, the XA is huge
> improvement over the 1R, but nothing is more elegant than the lines of the
> 1R. Just my personal opinions.
>
> I agree fully with this position and when you lather the 1R internally in
> grease, the slippage problem has never seemed to be a problem to me.
> Creaking also can be overcome with penetrating lubrication, even where the
> sleeve is at fault. My only worry with the 1R is the alloy bolt. After
> sitting for a long time and drying in place, it makes frightening noises
> when you do move it.
I too never had a problem with a Cinelli 1R (hidden clamp) and have used them since 1977 on a bunch of bikes. Use plenty of lube; no slipping and no creaking...
Chuck "now accepting your unloved 1Rs" Schmidt SoPas, SoCal
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