I use and ride Fiamme Ergal rims and Mavic GEL280's both and have found that my Ergals always come in at right around 280 grams while all the GEL280's I've weighed come in at about 290-295. Certainly not enough of a difference to make me prefer one over the other, but I absolutely prefer either over anything more modern I've come across. I've been told that earlier runs of the 280's were closer to 280 grams.
Steve Freides Balmy, April-like Ridgewood, NJ, USA, Third Rock
Bob Atwood wrote:
>
> >So perhaps CR members can shed light on the hierarchy of the various label
> >colors. Yellow labels were a bit heavier rim than the red labels? Were
> >there any other label colors used by Fiamme? And nothing has been said about
> >the Fiamme track rims. I have a bike with Fiamme Speedy rims, which I
> >believe were a later model from Fiamme (late 70's?). And last, but not
> >least, when did Fiamme bite the dust?
>
> I think the yellow labels are lighter. The set I have with original
> campy hi flange Record hubs and original spokes are very very light. I
> suspect that the rims weigh less than Mavic 280s. They also have a very
> impressive mirror-like finish to them which seems to corrode like silver.
>
> Bob Atwood
> Mesa, AZ