Light weight bike parts are kind of light beer, I will let others order it. Now in my mid 50's all I have to do is stand in front of a mirror naked and can see where the target area of weight reduction should be.
Always wondered how much weight one saved by drilling all those aluminum parts?
Just a week and a half to go!
Mark, snow is really a four letter nasty word when the ski area is closed, Poore
Linwood, WV
>From: Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]RE: lightweight chains
>Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:36:47 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Oh no, we're getting well into the 80's now, I fear we may be OT!!!!
>There actually was a ti chain - I don't remember the specifics of who made
>it or how heavy it wasn't but I do remember it was EXTREMELY expensive (I
>think - but not sure - that it cost something like $300).
>
>I remember the Viking Ti chain from the early 90's. It was aimed at
>weight-freak MTB riders. In that application it had chronic problems with
>stiff links. It is my understanding that one or more companies made ti
>chains in the 1970's or early 80's. Someone else on the list must have
>more info on these.
>
>And I also
>remember seeing somewhere that Regina's hollow pin chain (which I ran on a
>Merlin way back in the midst of the lightweight fad) was nearly as light,
>much, MUCH cheaper, and it worked.
>
>This strikes me as funny. I think of the lightweight fad as the early 70's
>drill-out craze that lead to the SR group with Ti pieces, drilled levers,
>and cut out chainrings. Certainly there were times before this that riders
>were equally concerened with weight, and times following that when there
>was a backlash toward reliability. If you're talking Merlin with SL chain
>you're well past the 70's lightweight craze and leading into the current
>lightweight craze that is running full tilt. In my opinion, things got
>pretty heavy in the 1980's when everyone reacted to all the broken Ergal
>rims and ti BB's of the 70's. The C-rec group with Deltas was the peak of
>the heavy bike backlash. I think that the revival of the superlight craze
>started with MTB's than came over to road bikes. We gained useful wieght
>reductions in the form of Aheadsets, and OS aluminum frames, as well as
>silly, expensive and delicate carbon parts and ti fasteners.
>
>My own experience with the hollow pin
>Regina proved out that it worked okay - can't say if it really was an
>improvement over the solid ones but it sure made me feel cool (!).
>
>Cool looking chain. I think they were reliable, but less durable than a
>Sedis SL, for example.
>
>Tom Dalton
>
>
>
>John Price
>
>Denver, CO
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ben kamen [mailto:ko_te_jebe@mac.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:43 AM
>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous digest, Vol 1 #1255 - 24 msgs
>
>
>4/23/02 12:05 PMclassicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org
>
> >
> > I have not the timeline but I have a book from 1989 that mentions the
>Regina
> > Superleggera with hollow pins.
> > It also states that even a lighter chain made of titanium was available
>back
> > then. But no brand name is given.
> >
> > Dirk
> >
> > --
> > Dirk Feeken
> > Heidelberg
> > Germany
>
>
>a titanium chain? forgive my cycnicism but how would they work - my mind
>tellms that wear would be fast. and i wonder if the simplex product and
>design group had toyed with ideas of a 'delrin' chain that probably never
>made it to market.
>
>but i could be wrong and titanium could be a suitable material for a chain.
>i do find the idea fascinating, tho. anyone ever use one?
>
>ciao,
>
>ben kamen
>NYC
>
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