[CR]Re: British Frame Design

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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 17:07:52 -0500
From: "Steve Kurt" <kurtsj@mtco.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Subject: [CR]Re: British Frame Design

> From: <nickzz@mindspring.com>
>
> Any one out there who can explain the reason many
> British made frames are so ornate?I am referring to the highly cutout lug details seen on many top
> quality British makes.To me it seems rather out of character with the British mode of design & more what I expect from French makers.
> Not being critical at all.Just curious as to the reasons.Opinions of the list encouraged.
> Nick Zatezalo
> Atlanta,Ga

at the risk of being a "me too" post, I've also thought about this. Is it just a result of British cultural history? I've had a chance to visit southern England and poke thru some castles and cathedrals. Even the flamoyance of a Hetchins pales compared to the incredible ornateness and detail of some of the cathedrals. I'm continually amazed at the great detail put into floors, altars, stained glass windows, etc., that can't be seen by the laity (sp??). It can only be appreciated by those at the altar itself. From a distance, it just becomes a general blur. If you have a chance, visit the armory museum at the Tower of London. The craftsmanship in the top-of-the-line armor is quite impressive! There are also some suits of dress armor that are highly decorated (not unlike a Hetchins), and I recall a helmet that was covered with various engravings. To some, these ornamentations are overwhelming and not all that attractive. To others, it's a testimony to the incredible amount of talent and effort of the artisan. In any case, it's certainly symbolic of the culture it sprang from. What English manufacturers were best known for the extremely ornate lug and paint styles? Hetchins obviously comes to mind, as well as particular models like the Carlton/Raleigh International. Others?

Steve Kurt Peoria, IL (where it was a lovely day for riding my '71 International fixed gear)