I think it's because "Bicycling" is all we have left in this country that we on the list have steeled ourselves to having idiots write commentary on bicycles ( I don't mean this to include anyone on the list).
I can't get my subscription stopped, despite not having paid for it for two years. Took me all of 20 minutes to scan the latest issue, then consign it to the recycling pile.
I've never built a frame, but my posterior knows a good-riding bike when it sees one!
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-----Original Message----- From: NortonMarg@aol.com [mailto:NortonMarg@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:49 PM To: jac33@tron.arts.cornell.edu; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: Debunking time again (Re: [CR]1962 Raleigh Gran Sport)
In a message dated 5/31/02 11:12:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jac33@tron.arts.cornell.edu writes:
<< Another interesting finding of the test is that raters are not very
good at determining the weight of their ride. This is of course implied
in a not so subtle way about the results I just mentioned. Straight
gauge tubing weighs more, so if riders could detect subtle differences in
weight, they would have been able to select the frame with the straight
gauge tubing as "different." These results were extended, however, by
adding weight to -- if memory serves -- the waterbottles in the form of
lead. Riders couldn't discern differences of up to three pounds or so,
even when ascending a hill with a mild incline. Wild.
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Ahah! The problem with this as an example may be in the quality of the
testing pool of riders. Just because someone is on a cycling team doesn't in
itself qualify them as being any good at all in testing. One can refer to
them as strong, average riders and be correct, but the results are then
limited to applying to only that category of rider. I get your point, just
beware of drawing too sweeping a conclusion from it.
Stevan Thomas
Alameda, CA