Having just read the list manager's post to stop the current free form thread, I need some clarification. I don't understand the rules of this list.I respect what is asked of us as readers and contributors and feel that it is my responsibility to follow them and also that it's not my responsibility to enforce them.(As a public school teacher rules and their enforcement or lack of are the bain of my existance so I have a lot of empathy here).
Here's an example. We are expected to sign each post with our name and state. This is an important rule. But continually celebs, contributors with status and a vocal fan base, ignore the rule. I follow the rules, even if they don't, but it pisses me off that some are more special than others.
Secondly, I understand why you would terminate this current thread, but endless opinion posts about Masi, Confente, and Campagnolo go on unchecked. I don't really care either way but is seems inconsistant to stop this yet allow that. Actually watching some of these guys dig themselves out of the verbal holes they've stepped in has been sort of endearing (or not).
Finally, it seems that this post Cerk spin out started with the discussion of the suicide and subsequent testimonials, both relevant and off-topic, about the fellow who killed himself and mental illness. That stuff is emotional, even if you have no personal involvement with the incident. I think that opened the door to a lot of venting in one form or other.
That's my observation, if it's too opinionated for the group, I'm sorry. I don't have any answers, just an interest in learning more about people and bikes. I'm not sorry for my spot on the sidelines. I'm not into group hugs. You would have loved (or not) my anti-suicide spew of venom but I was working so hard composing my post in my head the other day that I lost my concentration on a techincal bit of off road dirt and greeted the earth in an abrupt way. That post died with several layers of skin off my leg. My truth...the ground gets harder the older you get.