At 6:47 PM -0400 6/27/02, TNyzio@aol.com wrote:
>I imagine that I've even pissed off Mr. Ives with the above blasphemy.
Quite the opposite Tom, check the archives and a year ago you'll
witness me getting raked over the coals for calling the great
builders craftsmen and not artists. As someone who has made all
kinds of stuff with his hands in a variety of mediums. Herse, De
Rosa, Sachs and all the top builders could most likely make anything
else they wished. When I took metalsmithing classes I made small
hinged boxes since I thought they were totally different than bikes.
I believe making boxes would only make my frames better when I go
around to building them.. I've also made chairs and cabinets, poured
concrete, and built my own computers. I think Bill Hurlow or Glenn
Erickson could build the table or chair of your choice given the
materials. Brian Baylis has talked on this list about building his
own drum kit. The only thing that makes these people any different
from other craftspeople is their craft is bicycles.
enjoy,
Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
SB, CA