arnold-WELCOME! i've been on the list for 3(?) years, or so. sooner or larer, it all gets hashed out. one thing you should know-my opinion here-the states are a new country compared to your germany. we certainly don't have the years and lineage in the sport that the europeans have. worse yet, most people on this list were not even riding bicycles during the era that defines the CR timeline; everyone, save a few, is here to talk shop and trade information and gossip. every so often, someone who actually_lived_through_it chimes in and all the lore gets straightened out. if the list concentrates on bike boom era bicycles, so be it. the listees can't address what they don't know! believe me-this is a ravenous group. if you have a few chestnuts about the old days, your old days, please post them and share the experiences with us. e-RICHIE chester, ct ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ snipped: Arnold Clark <arnoldclark@gmx.net> writes: I have been lurking for a while-new list new rules-better take time...
And where is the stuff about OLD bikes? Everything seems to be about bike boom bikes. They must be the most boring bikes ever made. Nothing seems older than about 25 years. Does no one have an OLD bike they want to talk about. A 1930s lightweight is an OLD bike. Seventies bike are not OLD just a bit of nostalgia which is not the same thing. Old BIANCHIS, old CINELLIS, old HETCHINS, old HOLDSWORTHS, old BATES-these are classic bikes, not 70s bike boom crap.