[CR]Re: What have I done wrong

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Cinelli)

Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:48:44 +0200 (MEST)
From: "Arnold Clark" <arnoldclark@gmx.net>
To: OROBOYZ@aol.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <71.20777fb0.2a2ff07d@aol.com>
Subject: [CR]Re: What have I done wrong

What is going on here with this list. I post a message and I get two vile replies. I report them and I am told that they have "bounced" whatever that means. Now I get this message from Mr Brown---
> Rather a coincidence that both these are bouncing....
>
> I repeat here my e-mail to "Robert Miller":
>
> << So, you seem to have overstepped...
> Date: 6/5/2002 6:50:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: <A HREF="mailto:OROBOYZ">OROBOYZ</A>
> To: <A HREF="mailto:rmiller297@wans.net">rmiller297@wans.net</A>
>
> << > FUck you asshole get the fuck off...... don't ever state a opinion
> again
> > .........
> Robert Miller>>
>
>
> ... the bounds of good taste. Any last minute requests before I remove you
>
> >from the Classic Rendezvous?
>
> Dale Brown>>
>
>

This seems to be saying that I am to be thrown off the list. What have I done wrong. Is it OK then to use swearing words on the list? Is this what America is like.

I also got this message tonight from davidtesch@aol.com

What the hell kind of listmember are you? American cycling enthusiasts damn well know who I am, and any framebuilder with REAL experience would concur that there are few of us on the list. In fact there are some of us who get impatient with what can be reduced to simple camaraderie For example there are two guys that could not live any further apart, and still live in the US, that like to talk about twizzlers, both of these guys have my utmost respect, one if them as good of a framebuider/painter/restorer as there is, period. The other has worked nonstop, without interruption for decades in a trade that is damn hard to stick with for even a year or two. If you had a goddamn clue, you would understand that these are people who like to be in touch, and enjoy their hobbies, and their work. They are also a wealth of historical facts, and real knowledge. I think, if you want to police the list, and "jettison" anybody that does not please you, then you and Al Gore, should go establish your own Internet, and

make it an invitation only list with you as the imperial wizard, and all these infidels can throw themselves at your feet, and you can judge their worthiness at your discretion. Meanwhile, I concur, that you should Fuck off. Dave Tesch

Tesch says his two framebuilders want to talk about "twizzlers" on the list. What is a twizzler? Is it an appropriate topic for the list or have these people been thrown off already. I have never heard of a bike part or a company called twizzler. If these two people want to talk about twizzlers why dont they just email each other? I do not want to police the list. Someone else should be doing that properly. I have never been a member of a list like this. These people are full of agression. I do not want to stay on this list. Please remove me.

Arnold

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