I have had the need to try several different products, some out of simple curiousity, and found they all work very well if used properly and I wouldn't hesitate to use those I mentioned previously on a frame with full confidence. My comments about the effectiveness of various preservatives/corrosion inhibitors have nothing to do with who makes them, the politics of big oil, or who get's the profit; they're just statements of fact/opinion about their effectiveness or utility. I agree that given the choice, cyclist should put Framesaver at the top of their list if for no other reason than to support the industry, and as I said, it is an excellent product. BUT, to disregard or bash other products simply because the profit of sale doesn't go to Peter is a disservice to everyone, including Peter.
Cheers! Don "If it makes you feel better, I probably have six cans of Framesaver in the locker" Ferris Littleton, Colorado
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of David Feldman Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:16 AM To: goodrichbikes; Don Ferris; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: RE: [CR]Frame preservation
I have been told by more than one source that
Framesaver was devised to overcome a shortcoming that
PW perceived in LPS3--LPS doesn't coat the inside of a
tube as evenly or completely as FS.
David Feldman
Vancouver, WA
> Basically, I could care less about what goop gets
> sprayed into the tubes.
> I'm sure they all work, some better than others but
> why not support a fellow
> framebuilder? I'm assuming Peter gets a little
> dough for each can sold. I
> guess I'd rather he get a little profit instead of
> some oil conglomerate.
> Being a framebuilder isn't the most lucrative
> professions, so why not throw
> a bone to a talented builder and painter, Peter
> Weigle.
> Curt Goodrich
> (Jealous that I didn't think of it)
> Minneapolis, MN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org]On
> Behalf Of Don Ferris
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:20 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: RE: [CR]Frame preservation
>
>
> "LPS-3 doesn't even come
> close and it's value as an interior coating for
> frames is nothing short
> of rediculous. It may work as a mental massage if
> one was a cheapskate;
> but it would probably do more good if you sprayed it
> in your ears."
>
> Brian Baylis
> La Mesa, CA
> ***************
>
> I disagree. I use LPS3 for a number of things,
> including bike frames, and
> it provides excellent service. LPS3 goes on thin
> and is clear which is why
> I think most people think it's not effective; it
> doesn't leave a heavy,
> colored, film behind and it's easy to use too much.
> Maxi-Coat by Loctite is
> also excellent and it leaves a white coating so you
> can see where it is/has
> been so it works good on bike frames, but I don't
> use it on machinery (its
> intended purpose)because of the "white." I've also
> had good success with
> CRC's SP400 and it probably comes closest to the
> "look & feel" of
> Framesaver. Another excellent product for
> protecting bike frames is CRC's
> Zinc-It. It has the added benefit of not
> interferring with future
> paint/repaint or repairs like any of the
> wax/cosmoline based protectants do.
> It's drawback is that it can be a PITA to get in the
> tubes but you can just
> switch the nozzle on it for one from a can that uses
> a nozzle/tube
> arrangement like WD-40 or others. To get an idea of
> how all these
> protectants work and cover, just pick up any section
> of tubing and spray the
> inside of it with what you're using, you'll find
> that any that disperse from
> the nozzle as an atomized aerosol and not a "stream"
> work and cover well.
> You can also get better coverage on any protectant
> buy flaring the nozzle's
> tube like you would a cable housing (think
> blunderbuss). All that said,
> Framesaver is an excellent product and is probably
> easier to obtain for
> cyclists since so many LBS/MO places carry it.
>
> Cheers!
> Don Ferris
> Littleton, Colorado
>
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