Ken Wallace wrote:
>OK Folks, time for a quiz. Name the reference for each of the following
>Pegoretti names:
>
>Great Gogolee Mogolee
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Frank Zappa
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>CCKMP
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Steve Earle
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>Luigino
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Luigino Milano- framebuilder from whom Dario Pegoretti learned his craft.
Now what do I win?
DB
Ak, NZ
>
>
>There is some classic content in there somewhere.
>
>Ken Wallace
>PHX, AZ
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <dbrk@troi.cc.rochester.edu>
>To: "Classic Rendevous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:55 PM
>Subject: [CR]Pegoretti confessions
>
>
>>Okay, so earlier this season a pal of mine and I got a deal on
>>a pair of Luiginos. He'll stay unnamed. We learned that Gita had
>>a few non-custom bikes in the blue color that you see on the ByKyle
>>site. We got them from another dealer who is a nice guy and wanted
>>to sell some bikes...My bike, which is sitting here in the living room,
>>looks exactly like those on the ByKyle site. I think Gita had three
>>and we bought two of them. I could be wrong about that.
>>
>>I had no illusions that this bike was all old school and classic. I
>>asked Richie about awhile ago and he said what he said to everyone here.
>>In addition to the features that Richie has noted as the primary bits of
>>homage to the past, I would only add the Campagnolo 1010B dropouts (which
>>he pointed out to me).
>>
>>There are a few things to say about the frame that may be of interest
>>to the Classicists but I took the bike to be a pretty nice example of
>>a _modern_ lugged steel bike built with a few details to remind us
>>of things of yore. What's wrong with that? So, because I took it to be
>>
>actually a more modern bike
>
>>I didn't put old parts on it. I thought about doing it all Super Record
>>but this _isn't_ really an old bike, with its OS tubing and
>>modern cast lugs, it's an homage of sorts with clear
>>concessions to modernity, no? Mine has Campagnolo Record 9 speed Ergo
>>and, like a Sachs or other great bikes built with classic considerations,
>>this bike looks to my eye "appropriate" this way. I have old bikes
>>that I love, I have new bikes with old stuff, so I did this one another
>>
>way.
>
>>One really surprising feature of the frame is that it is unusually light.
>>I mean, noticeably---its some sort of Dedaccai MCDlotsofnumbersletters
>>tubing and I was expecting nothing like this. Built up it must be well
>>under 20 pounds though I don't weigh bikes and don't really care, it's
>>
>just
>
>>an interesting side note. Pegoretti may have thought about this and
>>built it this way, he likes light frames and I think he thought of
>>this bike as everything a tig'd highzoot steel bike of his could do
>>only with lugs and a nod to the past.
>>
>>The sparse lugs are nice, clean looking, but don't seem to have
>>undergone any special treatment. I mean, they don't look much worked
>>over or filed. I bet they came out of the cast pretty clean to begin
>>with. The paint has some grit and unfinished business about it, sort
>>of typical Euro-paint in the way that they don't seem to care about this
>>quite the way we do. Not even remotely close to a JB or Baylis,
>>fergetaboutit. But I really love the color. It's easy on the eyes,
>>looks nice (and shades differently) in all sorts of light, plus I am
>>a sucker for anything close to french blues.
>>
>>The threaded stem means I can get a great bar height without showing
>>lots of stem. Oh, and the fork crown created a problem because it
>>is some slightly larger diameter than true moderns. I had to use a
>>bit of dremel tooling to get a regular Campagnolo headset to fit.
>>It wouldn't seat properly. Now it's fine. Oh yes, and the rear dropouts
>>
>are
>
>>slightly off so that one screw has to be a millimeter ahead of the
>>other to get the wheels to seat properly. But other than that,
>>no problem. Cookie cutter bikes, gimmicks, whatever, I have to
>>tell you that Pegoretti builds bikes that ride _fantastically_.
>>It's not aesthetically perfect and nothing to compare to a Sachs,
>>Baylis, Rivendell, or Mariposa, but it's pretty neat in its own way,
>>not too common, and a _great_ ride. I have a set of the fancy
>>Nitto bottle cages, a neat Regal saddle and a few touches that
>>make it seem a bit more traditional (Mavic 451 brakes, the rest
>>is Record). The cable guides on the bb shell are really handsome
>>and the bike's geometries are neutral and forgiving.
>>Anybody want to know anything about it?
>>
>>It's no great shakes in comparison to Those That Shake Great
>>but it's pretty neat to my eye.
>>
>>Douglas Brooks
>>Canandaigua, NY