Bill: You are being silly. Cut it out, already. Don't get snobbish about language, which coast are you from, anyways??? ;) I can't wait to do the Laguna Beach crit in September, but I won't be riding a Masi Grand Criterium (nor any other type of Masi). P.S.: Sometimes I call Los Angeles "L.A.", but I never call California "Cali"! When I lived in Davis, I referred to San Francisco as "The City", like everyone else up there...it just seemed easier, but I guess I was just being lazy. Happy 4th of July!!! Stephan (Not "Steve") Andranian Costa Mesa, California Bill Bryant <bill_bryant@prodigy.net> wrote: And while we're at it, when discussing short, multi-lap bicycle races on city streets, could folks please stop using the word "crit" for "criterium"? (It's not really a big problem here on CR, but a revolution needs to start somewhere... If you see or hear the crude term being used, take the time to politely demonstrate the proper term so the unwise can learn the errors of their ways.)
In any case, this lazy bastardization of the French term makes me think the American dolts who use the short version are being overly challenged by having to remember too many syllables. What if they referred to their gear changing mechanisms as a front or rear "dur"? Ick! :-(
Besides, no one speaks about their Masi "Grand Crit", do they? (If the answer is yes, then maybe their bike should be put into foster care with an owner that will treat it better.)
Grumpily yours, Bill Bryant Santa Cruz, CA
on 7/3/02 12:57 PM, Richard M Sachs at richardsachs@juno.com wrote:
> hear, hear...
> (here, here?).
> well said, steven!
>
> no more 'campy'. i'm with you.
> campagnolo. PLEASE!
>
> e-RICHIE
> chester, ct
>
> On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 15:34:51 -0500 The Maaslands
> writes:
>> Mark,
>>
>> The use of 'groupo' or 'grouppo' also irk me, but nowhere near as
>> much as
>> the use of 'campy'. Campagnolo, further to being a company
>> respected
>> throughout the world is also a family name, would you like to be
>> called
>> Bulgy? Furthermore the 'g' combines with the 'n' to give a 'nyee'
>> sound in
>> Italian.
>>
>> Steven "not Masi unless you provide me the bike" Maasland
>> Moorestown, NJ
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mark Bulgier
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: [CR]groups
>>
>>
>>> Is the word groupo (or grouppo) accepted usage now? I sure don't
>> like it,
>>> retrogrouch that I am. Is it used tongue-in-cheek maybe?
>>>
>>> In Italian it's gruppo, in English it's group. I don't know what
>> it is in
>>> Japanese but it isn't groupo!
>>>
>>> Mark "Groucho" Bulgier
>>> Seattle, Wa
>>> USA
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