Re: [CR]Early SR lever shape, really, not hallucinating

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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:52:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dalton" <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Early SR lever shape, really, not hallucinating
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <20020712.103002.-303695.24.richardsachs@juno.com>


I suspect you are done for the day, but: Are we even speaking the same language? I'm saying there were two SR levers and you are at one time saying 1) you have examples of both levers 2) that there aren't two levers. To clarify, are you saying that you have examples of both Record levers and before you agree that there are analogous examples of SR levers, you will have to see the two side-by-side? Okay, that's up to you. I say look at thge NR bike in the Benotto catalog. It clearly has Pre-CPSC long reach Record levers. Now look at the SR equipped bike. The shape is the same. Tom Dalton Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> wrote: i'm out... this takes too much time! a picture is worth 1000 words, but i have the lever (both types) here and the curves are similar when one blade is placed over the other, except the later type has more material at the top, making it a shorter throw version. the only way to tell the difference isd to look at the part of the blade that's buried in the hood, because going on curve alone is misleading. e-RICHIE done. in chester, ct

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Tom Dalton writes:
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> First gen. SR brake lever naysayers:
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> Take a look at the levers on this here Bee-notta
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> ftp://ftp.bates-lee.org/pub/benotto%232/4.jpg
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> Do they really look like normal SR levers to you? They sure look
> like early, pre-CPSC Record levers to me, but with holes. Given
> that this is a very early SR bike, and obviously predates the CPSC
> changes that lead to the second Record lever shape, I'd say that SR
> levers were changed in the same manner. Up to 1977 they were a bit
> more swoopy and pointy, and sat at a different angle due to the big
> difference at the top. Why do we see so few of these? Good
> question. Why do we see so few first gen. SR rear ders, and
> two-bolt SR posts? It just wasn't very common stuff. NR was still
> standard, SR was super-exotic. By the time SR was in widespread
> use, the Nuovo SR post and der were out and the CPSC changes had
> been made. Add to this that the oldest stuff has had longer to were
> out and get tossed... then add to this that nobody seems to
> recognize the brake lever difference, unlike the super-obvious post
> and der changes. Since the difference goes unnoticed, many of these
> levers haven't made it into our circulating pool of collectable
> early SR stuff. So why did I open my mouth? I should be out there
> looking for these levers and stockpiling them for the day that
> people clue in and everyone needs a set for his/her pre-CPSC SR
> Masi. There, I said "Masi."
>
> If this doesn't convince people, I do recall seeing a photo in a
> recent... oh what the heck is it called... the WCP/Phil and Paul
> magazine... Cycle Sport, that shows a young Hinault, in a sprint
> against two other riders and one of those riders has one of each
> style of SR lever on his bike. I'll try to find the picture.
>
> Tom Dalton
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> Bethlehem, PA
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