Re: [CR] tapers and grease (drifting of aluminum on steel)

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From: "Andrew Gillis" <apgmaa@earthlink.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR] tapers and grease (drifting of aluminum on steel)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:27:04 -0700


Chuck, et al:

In college (1977 or so), I had overhauled a NR rear derailleur and had greased the limit screws with Phil Wood grease. After the first rear wheel catastrophe (chain in spokes), I recall re-verifying that the upper limit screw wouldn't stay put when it was greased. I subsequently had no drift when I overhauled the NR RD and used oil instead.

Similarly, in September of 1979, the headset on my new Pinarello was an aluminum Edco which loosened and dented (brinnelled) when I was riding thru Portuguese Bend in Palos Verdes (old rutted roads). I recall that there was a keyed locknut in that installation. The Edco headset was only a few weeks old (I'm sure it was originally tight) when it loosened up and was ruined.

Afterwards I had a Chris King headset installed, which did not use a keyed lockwasher (OEM setup). This one also would also loosen up, but due to the stronger bearings it was not ruined. I then overhauled the headset and used Phil Wood oil and I have not had any drift since then.

What can I say? The drift sure seemed consistent to me.

Andrew Gillis (Long Beach, CA)


> In over 25 years of using grease on threads I've never experienced any
> of the problems you have had. Never had an aluminum headset "drift" on
> a steerer tube (that's what the locknut is for) and never had a Nuovo
> Record or any other derailleur lose its adjustment. Campagnolo's
> derailleurs have used springs to keep the screws secure in their place
> and I have never had one back out.
>
> Oil or grease keeps the exposed BB axle from rusting ;)
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> SoPas, SoCal