Re: [CR] 1930's Bates Frame

(Example: Framebuilders:Tubing)

Subject: Re: [CR] 1930's Bates Frame
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <GPVB1@cs.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <2b.2d7c27fd.2abce186@cs.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:58:26 +0100

The problem is that many buyers size old frames just as they do more modern ones - firstly stems were far shorter in the 1930s - a 10cm one would be considered extra long back then. Secondly riders rode smaller frames - but of course still needed the same length top tube. A 20in frame from back then would be probably be ridden by a rider who would now ride a 22in - combine that with an 8cm stem and you have a similar reach to what would be achieved on a modern frame. In the 1950s the opposite applied - riders rode much larger frames so the same rider would probably have chosen a 23 or 23.5in frame then with perhaps the same length 8cm stem.

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England

Greg Parker wrote:
> > Question - is it really 20" c-t size, but with a 23" c-c TT? Is that
> combination perhaps deterring potential buyers? Or does it not really matter
> on this type of frame?
>
>>
>> Having twice tried to sell (unsuccesfully) this lovely refinished &
>> re-chromed 1930's Bates frame on e-bay, I'm now offering it to anyone on th=
>> e
>> list at =A3200 / $310 + shipping (neg.)
>>
>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>>
>> Why ? - well I've no real interest in 1930's Bate's frames and whilst it
>> would make a suitable addition to my meagre collection there are probably
>> others out there who would better appreciate it than I. In addition I've a
>> real opportunity to buy a 1930's Flying Scot and need the money. What else
>> can I say.......
>>
>> Anyone interested ?
>>
>> Bob Reid
>> Stonehaven
>> Scotland