Re: [CR]Campy S.R. front derailleur differences


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From: Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Campy S.R. front derailleur differences
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:32:25 -0700 (PDT)

I think the really rough looking cable clamping blocks were for Victory/Triomphe. The Record/S Record had changed over to a countersunk design with the script logo. The later non-countersunk were like those on the block logo Record/S. Record, but they were poorly finished. I'm pretty sure they were intended for the Victory/Triomphe stuff. This is not to say that Campy didn't lower their standards of finish in some areas as time went by. The also improved the finish in other areas. Tom Dalton Bethlehem, PA Renaissance-Cycles wrote:Biggest give away on these parts is in the finish, chroming, plating and overall finish!

I won't get to deep into this but for example between the older and new cable clamping blocks for brake calipers. Older ones will have a much nicer finish and the newer are like a piece of pot steel with sharp edges. The same goes for most of the other Campagnolo small parts.

So compare with another.

BC Baron Corpuz....................And the gang!!.............With roll-aways full of Campagnolo small parts.


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From: "Tom Dalton"
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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Campy S.R. front derailleur differences



>
> I suspect that the larger-diameter concave washer came later than the smaller one. I have no idea when the actual change was made, or even if it occurred at a particular time. There may have simply been two sources for the washers, with Campy switching back and forth over time. The only "significant" difference among SR front ders that I've even noticed is in the size of the logo stamped on the outside of the cage. There are two sizes. One of the sizes (I can't recall which) is the same as the logo on my 4-hole NR front, so I assume this is the earlier logo. Based on a discussion with Mr. Maasland (sp?) last week, the size of the logo may have changed when a worn die was replaced.
> There are also some different initials cast into the outer arm, but I have no idea how these changed, and whether they reflect different vintages or different pieces of manufacturing equipment. Other than the minor logo change, I consider all SR fronts to be the same. If someone can decipher the significance of the cast-in markings, please let us know.
> Tom Dalton
> Bethlehem, PA
>
> FujiFish1@aol.com wrote:Hi all,
> I have found two styles of Campy Super Record (with the black arms)
> braze-on front mechanisms. One design has a larger convex washer that goes
> between the front of the frame bracket and the back of the securing nut.
> Can anyone venture a guess as to which style is newer, and the approximate
> time periods they were produced? Thanks...
>
> Best regards,
> Mark Agree