All:
I've never seen a 50th group with toestraps. Did they ever come that way?
I've also never seen any large 50th chainring other than 53 teeth. Did they ever make different ones (the inners are just SR)?
The correct brake lever hoods are gum World-Logo as far as I know - I've never seen anything else in an unmolested 50th group. They also came with shift cables and brake cables (black housing). Headsets were SR, BBs NR.
The "options card" that I have shows:
Cranks: 170, 172.5, 175
Seat Pin: 25, 26.6, 26.8, 27, 27.2
Hubs: 36/36, 32/32
Toe Clips: Medium, Large
Front Changer: clip-on, braze-on
Thread: BSA, French, Italian (I'm not sure if any hubs were other than BSC, though)
Lou, the dust cover cap tool fits only the Campy 50th crankarm caps and was always chrome-plated, with the 50th logo on it, and came with the group. The other (blackish color) pin tool is not the same pin spacing, is newer than 1983 and fits C-Rec crankarm dustcaps IIRC (not 100% sure).
Cheers,
Greg Parker A2 MI USA
> To: TheMaaslands@comcast.net
> Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:37:41 -0400
> Subject: Re: I: [CR]Campagnolo 50th Anniversary Dust Cover tool--Other
> parts/tools?
> From: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>
>
> fwiw, threads, hub drilling (32 or 36), crank length,
> chainring combo, and toe clip size were all 'to order'
> items. in most cases, u.s. importers probably spec-ed
> groups in saleable combinations. but there was a form
> you filled out prior to the p.o.'s and thus would receive
> what you ordered.
> i ordered 10 groups at the front end of all this and they
> cost in the $400 range...
> e-RICHIE
> chesta', ct
> (private mail to brian-do you remember the preview
> of the prototype groups that amos york gave us, {you,
> me and tesch}, at the 83? ny bicycle show???)
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:00:09 -0500 The Maaslands
> <TheMaaslands@comcast.net> writes:
> > The full 'official' gruppo as delivered in the suitcase should
> > include the
> > following:
> >
> > Headset
> > Seatpost and Binderbolt (different seatpost diameters were
> > available)
> > D/T Shift levers (Braze-on)
> > Brakeset (I believe they were available with either old-style
> > bolt-on or
> > allen key bolt fixture)
> > B/B (I believe they were all in Italian thread)
> > Chainset (Available in different lengths)
> > Pedals (I believe all in Italian/BSC thread)
> > Toe Clips (Available in different sizes)
> > Toe Clip Straps (I believe all made out of white leather)
> > Front Derailleur (either braze-on or clamp-on)
> > Rear Derailleur
> > Hubs (I believe all Italian thread)
> >
> > ... and the tool that you found.
> >
> > Steven Maasland
> > Moorestown, NJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <LouDeeter@aol.com>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:36 PM
> > Subject: [CR]Campagnolo 50th Anniversary Dust Cover tool--Other
> > parts/tools?
> >
> >
> > > I have two of the Campagnolo crank dust cover tools with the
> > little pins.
> > I
> > > didn't notice today that one of them is chromed and has the 50th
> > anniversary
> > > markings on it. I'm not sure what parts and tools came with or
> > were
> > > available for the 50th group, but this is the first time I've ever
> > seen
> > one
> > > of these. If anyone has a list of what else was offered with/for
> > the
> > group,
> > > I'd be interested in seeing the list. Only other oddball part
> > I've seen
> > is
> > > the Cinelli stem with the 50th engraving. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
> > >
> > >
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