Re: Index is so ON topic (Re: [CR]Re: Allvit shifting)

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From: Jerry & Liz Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Warren & Elizabeth" <warbetty@sympatico.ca>
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Subject: Re: Index is so ON topic (Re: [CR]Re: Allvit shifting)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:37:48 -0600


Interesting, but they don't say if anyone ever did a similar efficiency test on derailleur gears that could be compared.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Houston, TX


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From: Warren & Elizabeth
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Index is so ON topic (Re: [CR]Re: Allvit shifting)



> Jerry wrote...
>
> >It has always seemed odd to me that internal-geared hubs seem never to have
> >been popular with racers, or even with most owners of high-end lightweight
> >touring bikes. The early racers seem to have distained derailleurs because
> >of perceived friction losses in the tortuous chain path, but no such
> >objection exists to internal gear hubs. I suppose the objection may have
> >been the weight of a geared hub, although as discussed here before, the
> >weight of rotating components close to the axis of rotation is relatively
> >insignificant compared to those far from the axis, i.e. hub weight is much
> >less important than rim weight. Maybe this is all just a matter of image,
> >as racers, and even most of us on this list, have an image of quality
> >lightweigt bikes as having derailleurs, while we associate geared hubs with
> >roadsters or utility bikes.
>
>
> There is also a well-debated issue concerning the loss of efficiency
> in epicyclic efficiency. Randy Gordon-Gilmore has a brief discussion
> of some test done in the 50's on the subject.
>
> Go to... http://www.rickadee.net/~zephyrus/s-a/s-a.html

>

> Warren Young

> Toronto