Jerry, I had a pair--briefly!--and they were intended to have the cleats temporarily tacked on with a small number of nails, then permanently attached with a larger number of wood screws that were also included. That would seem like a potential downside of otherwise good pedals, that one mis-and-re-installation of the cleats would chew up the sole of a shoe too badly. That and they were introduced onto the market shortly before bolted, adjustable cleats. BTW, I have been told that those were made by Sheffield for Cinelli--anybody know if this is fact or not? Regarding cleats for leather soled shoes, I had the best luck by taking a pair of shoes with a good, distinct pedal mark to a shoe repair shop and having heel leather nailed on. Richard Heisler, a cyclist who at the time was a leathersmith for work, did an EXCELLENT job of this for people in our club of the time, La Grange-Westwood. Spoiled me for TA cleats forever.
David Feldman
Vancouver, WA
<DRob697@aol.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Cc: <dartley@co.ba.md.us> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Cleats for old road shoes
> Speaking of cleats, does anyone know what type of shoe the cleats included
> with the infamous Cinelli "Death Pedals" were intended to attach to? Were
> they designed to be naailed to leather-soled shoes? Anyone know of a way
to
> attach them to newer shoes?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas R. Adams, Jr." <kctommy@msn.com>
> To: <Wdgadd@aol.com>; <DRob697@aol.com>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Cc: <dartley@co.ba.md.us>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Cleats for old road shoes
>
>
> >
> > I believe older shoes were perfectly flat front to back, and thus fit
the
> TA cleats best, while more modern shoes countoured the foot beds,
requiring
> either the short cleats or the curved bottom Paravin style cleats. Either
> way, though, you may have to make routine maintenance trips to the cobbler
> to have the cleats renailed.
> >
> > Still, the most comfortable shoes I ever rode in were my Dutch Medalists
> with the TA cleats. I could do a century with no foot pain or numbness. I
> think the long base of the TA cleat really spreads the pedal pressure.
Alas,
> I was seduced by pre installed adjustable cleats and forsook my old
> faithfuls.
> >
> > Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Wdgadd@aol.com
> >
> > >To: DRob697@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >
> > >CC: dartley@co.ba.md.us
> >
> > >Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Cleats for old road shoes
> >
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:19:46 EST
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >In a message dated 3/12/03 8:44:12 PM, DRob697@aol.com writes:
> >
> > >
> >
> > ><< from my experience the long TA
> >
> > >cleats can be difficult to install and stay put once nailed, and might
be
> >
> > >best nailed on by a shoe repairman who has the repair last, proper
nails
> etc.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The hot ticket used to be to bolt the cleats on using countersunk
screws
> >
> > >from the inside and nuts on the outside. Also, I remember that the base
> of
> >
> > >the T.A. Anquetil long "road" cleats would often break about 1/2 "
behind
> the
> >
> > >slot, especially on less rigid shoes; many people would shorten them
> before
> >
> > >installing to about the length of the "track" version. These cleats
were
> >
> > >apparently around before T.A. made them- I've wondered what the story
is
> with
> >
> > >that.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >Best regards,
> >
> > >Wes Gadd
> >
> > >Unionville,CT
> >
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