Re: [CR]Was Japanese bike makers, Now Butted Tubing

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:34:44 -0400
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Was Japanese bike makers, Now Butted Tubing
To: Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com>, LouDeeter@aol.com
References: <20030423.205737.2744.23.richardsachs@juno.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

If I remember the quad and triple butted tubing was seamed and could not be made by the seamless method with mandrels. Seamed tubing is cheaper to make and generally inferior to seamed tubing. However seamed tubing can be made to equal the quality of seamless tubing. But rather than explain how good your seamed tubing is, it is easier to talk about triple and quad butting, which no seamless tubing manufacturer could offer.

I believe True Temper was/is also a high quality seamed tubing.

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Grat Notch, NJ
Tesch under assembly now!


----- Original Message -----
From: Richard M Sachs
To: LouDeeter@aol.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Was Japanese bike makers, Now Butted Tubing



> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:21:39 EDT LouDeeter@aol.com writes:
> "Why did more or the Japanese manufacturers use triple and quad butted
> tubing
> than the European builders? Was it simply Japanese used Ishiwata and
> Tange
> and Europeans used Reynolds and Columbus, et al and the Japanese steel
> makers
> offered the multi-butted tubing?"
>
>
> lou,
> i don't know.
> e-RICHIE
> chester, ct