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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 1960's Bottecchia bb threads 2. Was Toei, now generator wiring (Jan Heine) 3. ebay - suntour superbe brakeset, TA cage, cinelli moustache bars (ben kamen) 4. Question about frame resizing ... possible? 5. WTB: Nutted brake calipers (rfrobb@wcoil.com) 6. Mountain View California locals (Craig Fenstermaker) 7. The Dancing Chain by Frank Berto is available (Tom Sanders) 8. Don't make me win the shirt off Walt's back (Charlie Young) 9. Re: Don't make me win the shirt off Walt's back (Wspokes) 10. Re: Was Toei, now generator wiring (goodrichbikes) 11. Re: The Dancing Chain by Frank Berto is available (Mara & Steven Maasland) 12. Re: Question about frame resizing ... possible? (Brandon Ives) 13. Newsletter for OT dicussion etc...... (Wayne Davidson) 14. Re: FS Gitane Professional Tour de France, NOS, 23"& 24" (recycle) 15. Re: Question about frame resizing ... 16. Re: Was Toei, now generator wiring (Jan Heine) 17. ebay outing: colnago sport 18. ebay outing: rare british brake cables and housing 19. Re: long qr skewers, where to find? 20. Re: Notice! CR list downtime...
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:04:48 EDT From: DTSHIFTER@aol.com To: art_52@hotmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]1960's Bottecchia bb threads Message-ID: <16e.1da2bb75.2bd98f50@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1
In a message dated 4/24/03 2:30:18 PM, art_52@hotmail.com writes:
<< The bb width is 70mm. The shell diameter appears to be a tad under 36mm (my
caliper isn't very precise). >>
Brandon,
The 70mm shell certainly implies Italian thread, not to mention the Bottecchia!!
Perhaps just coincidence, but I have had to chase far more Italian threaded BB's than any other. How do the threads look? How dirty/crudded up are the threads?
I have a '68 and the threading is definitely Italian.
Good luck.........
Chuck Brooks Malta, NY
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 12:32:54 -0700 From: Jan Heine <heine@mindspring.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Was Toei, now generator wiring Message-ID: <a05010413bacdeba879b3@[66.167.138.228]> In-Reply-To: <CATFOODegh0YCaRW5ER00001f6a@catfood.nt.phred.org> References: <CATFOODegh0YCaRW5ER00001f6a@catfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2
Curt,
Not sure how generator wiring can be more concealed than on a René Herse with "eclairage sans fil" (where the generator wiring is routed through the headset via carbon brushes)? Can you explain?
The reason the French concealed the wires was that it looked cleaner, and was less prone to damage from getting entangled in stuff.
Many French, then and now, transported their bikes by train, where they'd be handled by railway employees, hung in a baggage car, etc. In fact, Ernest Csuka complained how they bent his handlebars on his last trip to the Alps.
Jan Heine, Seattle
Curt Goodrich wrote:
Most notably, Toei goes to greater lengths to conceal generator wiring than the originals. Why? I don't know but I bet he gets off on it. ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:59:10 -0400 From: ben kamen <dupe@mac.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]ebay - suntour superbe brakeset, TA cage, cinelli moustache bars Message-ID: <3709D6CA-768F-11D7-8CFD-000393B3BF4C@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <CATFOODkO3C9vBGtWva00001f67@catfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3
hey all,
ive listed a few more things on ebay - no reserve
suntour superbe pro brakeset - short reach, nutted, NOS NIB complete
cinelli moustache bars (rare?) - NOS new logo
TA steel cage - nice, but needs a touch of polish
search for them under my ebay i.d. - merckx_69
or by clicking below
any questions feel free to ask (email)
with the move to australia in a few weeks i am couch surfing with friends but will be here in NYC until all the auctions are settled. wireless technology is cool and im checking my emails once a day in Bryant Park for free - i dont fancy starbucks. the items are in safe storage and ill be shipping within a few days following the auctions.
if your from the list let me know as ill send prior to payment. ill contact winning bidders following auctions requesting for shipping details. i might not have a fixed abode but ill ensure the goods are delivered promptly.
thanks
ciao, ben kamen rent free - laptop toting - vagabond in NYC
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:23:10 EDT From: FujiFish1@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Question about frame resizing ... possible? Message-ID: <47.2d2c8e94.2bd9a1ae@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4
Here is a question for the builders and modifiers out there, regarding a
beautiful Torpado track bike that has been made available to me: This bike is about a 57cm (c-c), and I ride a 52. Is there such a thing as reducing the size of a frameset, while still keeping the characteristics that were intended by the master builder? does it really work if so? Is it so difficult to do that it might not be worth the cost? Track frames made by Torpado are pretty scarce, from what I can tell (by CR posts and Ebay, my only to units of measure). So I'm thinking that maybe I should grab this if no other options become available. What do you guys think? Any input will be helpful. Thanks...
BTW, my Ebay ID has changed from 'Fujifishmark' to 'Torpado1', for those of you who keep a list.
Best regards, Mark Agree Oak Park MI
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:18:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "rfrobb@wcoil.com" <rfrobb@wcoil.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]WTB: Nutted brake calipers Message-ID: <200304242018.QAA18565@brando.3wmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Precedence: list Reply-To: 3WMail Guest <rfrobb@wcoil.com> Message: 5
Listmembers
Looking for a pair of calipers (normal reach) about 50 mm to fit to an 70-s Picchio. Requires nutted bolts. Anyone got a pair for sale? Campy preferred but also looking at Suntour Superbe.
Thanks, Rick Robbins Ada, Ohio
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:34:38 -0700 From: "Craig Fenstermaker" <cfenstermaker@cryocor.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Mountain View California locals Message-ID: <4B207D81EB59F544B2B96DF84E653DC601A0F1@mail.cryocor.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6
I'll be in town, ( bikeless unfortunatley), the 25th - 28th of april. Will any locals please contact me off-list to recommend a shop to do some browsing or too-good-to-be-missed restaurants? Thai / Mexican / Other Asian preferred.
Thanks
Craig
craig g. fenstermaker c/o cryocor inc. 9717 pacific heights blvd. san diego, ca 92121 858.909.2209 voice 858.909.2230 fax
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:54:16 -0400 From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@attbi.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]The Dancing Chain by Frank Berto is available Message-ID: <00fb01c30aa3$ab940f20$ead2f50c@C1921978A> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 7
I just found that by going to Amazon UK I could order it for a total, with air mail shipping to this country, of about 27 Pounds. Not sure just how much this is in dollars, but I haven't been able to find it in
= some time. I know several other list members have been looking for
it, = also. All my customer information settings were in their files,
just = like ordering here, too.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:07:35 -0400 From: "Charlie Young" <youngc@netreach.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Don't make me win the shirt off Walt's back Message-ID: <3ea85217.1b8e.1448612955@netreach.net> Precedence: list Reply-To: youngc@netreach.net Message: 8
Bidding seems to have stalled on Walt's MS150 charity auction of a "colorful" jersey:
http://ebay.com/
Charlie "bit on the drab side and will never fit into it" Young Honeybrook, PA ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:56:34 -0400 From: "Wspokes" <wspokes@penn.com> To: <youngc@netreach.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]Don't make me win the shirt off Walt's back Message-ID: <001201c30aac$6075ee60$6ad3fea9@wspokes> References: <3ea85217.1b8e.1448612955@netreach.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9
I think Charlie is rather begging to be relieved of the pressure of this jersey!! It will turn out to be the green Meral at this years cirque...possibly pawned from one person to the next. Once again, thanks to all those that drove that bid up to where it currently is....thanks!
Walt
Falls Creek, Pa
> Bidding seems to have stalled on Walt's MS150 charity
> auction of a "colorful" jersey:
>
>
http://ebay.com/
>
> Charlie "bit on the drab side and will never fit into it" Young
> Honeybrook, PA
> _______________________________________________
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:37:38 -0500 From: "goodrichbikes" <goodrichbikes@netzero.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Jan Heine" <heine@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [CR]Was Toei, now generator wiring Message-ID: <000101c30ab0$61fe8d60$e4639e40@computer> References: <CATFOODegh0YCaRW5ER00001f6a@catfood.nt.phred.org> <a05010413bacdeba879b3@[66.167.138.228]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 10
Most of the Toei's that I've seen have the generator remote turn on routed through the seat stay internally. Most of the Singer's and Herse's run the remote on the outside of the seat stay. Neither one is better than the other but certainly routing through the seat stay is more labor.
Curt Goodrich
Minneapolis, MN
Curt,
Not sure how generator wiring can be more concealed than on a René Herse with "eclairage sans fil" (where the generator wiring is routed through the headset via carbon brushes)? Can you explain?
The reason the French concealed the wires was that it looked cleaner, and was less prone to damage from getting entangled in stuff.
Many French, then and now, transported their bikes by train, where they'd be handled by railway employees, hung in a baggage car, etc. In fact, Ernest Csuka complained how they bent his handlebars on his last trip to the Alps.
Jan Heine, Seattle
Curt Goodrich wrote:
Most notably, Toei goes to greater lengths to conceal generator wiring than the originals. Why? I don't know but I bet he gets off on it. _______________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:22:54 -0400 From: Mara & Steven Maasland <TheMaaslands@comcast.net> To: Tom Sanders <tsan7759142@attbi.com> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]The Dancing Chain by Frank Berto is available Message-ID: <1f75881f9f03.1f9f031f7588@icomcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 11
Tom wrote:
> I just found that by going to Amazon UK I could order it for a
> total, with air mail shipping to this country, of about 27 Pounds.
> Not sure just how much this is in dollars, but I haven't been
> able to find it in some time. I know several other list members
> have been looking for it, also. All my customer information
> settings were in their files, just like ordering here, too.
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/
I ordered two copies of the book in September of last year and did not receive anything except notices that the book was delayed until in early March they told me that it was now out of print and no longer available. Therefore I am sorry to say that it is highly unlikely that you will receive your order.
Sorry to give you the bad news!
Steven Maasland Moorestown, NJ
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:51:43 -0700 From: Brandon Ives <monkeylad@mac.com> To: FujiFish1@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Question about frame resizing ... possible? Message-ID: <6857532.1051224703026.JavaMail.monkeylad@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12
On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 01:23PM, <FujiFish1@aol.com> wrote:
>Is there such a thing as reducing the size of a frameset, while still
keeping the characteristics that were
>intended by the master builder? does it really work if so?
To put it bluntly, no. Could it be done, sure. . . would it be anything like the original bike, no. Sorry Mark, but your best bet is to try and find someone who will trade you for it. One of my rules is NEVER get bikes too big to ride. I've done it a few times and always regretted it, sometimes you can get an ok trade but that's all. good luck, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives been there, done that in Santa Barbara, Calif. ++++++++++++++++++++ Nobody can do everything, but if everybody did something everything would get done. --Gil Scott-Heron-- +++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 03 10:57:08 +1200 From: Wayne Davidson <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz> To: "CR BIKE LIST" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Newsletter for OT dicussion etc...... Message-ID: <20030424225608.JPEY8633.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@[210.54.75.203]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 13
Hi all, I have started this group, feel free to join for disscussion of what is out of the CR dateline.......regards wayne davidson Invercargill
NZ.
http://groups.yahoo.com/
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 04:29:19 +0000 From: recycle <recycle@wmni.net> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]FS Gitane Professional Tour de France, NOS, 23"& 24" Message-ID: <3EA76815.98EA7670@wmni.net> References: <3EA70D36.E1B3E044@wmni.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 14
This is an revision of the original notice. I found the correct model name to be " Professional Tour de France" thanks to a list member. There are red Hand decals below the 531 decal that say "Custom Made", All other details remain the same
recycle wrote:
> Offered to the list before eBay; I have two (late '70's?) Gitane
Service
> Course road bikes, both NOS, one 23"c-t & one 24"c-t, These are both
New
> unsold bikes that were robbed of parts and then put away and forgot
> about for 25+ years. What IS included; Renyolds 531 DB frame and fork,
> Simplex DO's,
> Stronglight headset (installed), Simplex Derailuers front and rear and
> Simplex chrome levers and cables / cable guides (installed) Metalic
Gold
> paint w/ the classic foil decals, chrome tips front and back. The
> condition of both is as-new and they still have the protective wrap
from
> the factory. No wheels or cranksets/BB's or H-Bars / stem.
> $400 each, delivered / insured in 48 lower states. Paypal accepted.
>
> David Cowie
> Sutherlin Oregon
> 40º half of last week
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:29:21 EDT From: OROBOYZ@aol.com To: FujiFish1@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Question about frame resizing ... Message-ID: <4f.2de57244.2bd9cd51@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15
In a message dated 4/24/2003 4:25:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, FujiFish1@aol.com writes:
<< Is there such a thing as reducing the size of a frameset, while still keeping the characteristics that were intended by the master builder? does it really work if so? Is it so difficult to do that it might not be worth the cost? >>
It IS possible but the cost and resulting bike would be... strange.
First, you have to realize that all really good bikes change in angles and dimensions as they change size.. So everything is screwed up when you "shrink" a frame.
You have the problem of getting the frame apart... brass brazed, stamped
maybe pinned lugs .. Whew! Some of the bits a pieces would not survive the heat & pulling apart process. Some bits will be warped and fudged up..
Then, all that stuff that is salvageable would have to be cleaned of flux and brass and soot .. Yukky work! Finally the tubes would have to be polished, mitered and reassembled.. My guess is that it would take roughly as long as building a complete new frame if not longer...
Then off to the paint shop..
Would this be worth it? Not in my value system. Even for a really fancy collectible, it would be hard to justify this agonizing procedure
Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, NC 27408 336-274-5959 fax 336-274-6360 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:40:08 -0700 From: Jan Heine <heine@mindspring.com> To: "goodrichbikes" <goodrichbikes@netzero.net> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Was Toei, now generator wiring Message-ID: <a05010401bace25b452b6@[66.167.139.104]> In-Reply-To: <000101c30ab0$61fe8d60$e4639e40@computer> References: <CATFOODegh0YCaRW5ER00001f6a@catfood.nt.phred.org> <a05010413bacdeba879b3@[66.167.138.228]> <000101c30ab0$61fe8d60$e4639e40@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 16
Curt,
Good observation! Herse usually routed the wires through the seatstay, Singer didn't. Since it's a short piece of wire, behind the stay, it is hard to see.
Jan
>Most of the Toei's that I've seen have the generator remote turn on
routed
>through the seat stay internally. Most of the Singer's and Herse's run
the
>remote on the outside of the seat stay. Neither one is better than the
>other but certainly routing through the seat stay is more labor.
>
>Curt Goodrich
>Minneapolis, MN
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jan Heine" <heine@mindspring.com>
>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 2:32 PM
>Subject: [CR]Was Toei, now generator wiring
>
>
>Curt,
>
>Not sure how generator wiring can be more concealed than on a René
>Herse with "eclairage sans fil" (where the generator wiring is routed
>through the headset via carbon brushes)? Can you explain?
>
>The reason the French concealed the wires was that it looked cleaner,
>and was less prone to damage from getting entangled in stuff.
>
>Many French, then and now, transported their bikes by train, where
>they'd be handled by railway employees, hung in a baggage car, etc.
>In fact, Ernest Csuka complained how they bent his handlebars on his
>last trip to the Alps.
>
>Jan Heine, Seattle
>
>Curt Goodrich wrote:
>
>Most notably, Toei goes to greater lengths to conceal generator wiring
than
>the originals. Why? I don't know but I bet he gets off on it.
>_______________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: chasds@mindspring.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]ebay outing: colnago sport Message-ID: <6347930.1051229424867.JavaMail.nobody@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17
Interesting bike here. Lord knows who made it, but it has a certain odd appeal.
Charles "maybe one CAN have too many Colnagos" Andrews SoCal
PS: Just curious. Is the person with the ebay name *eyetooth* on this list? E-mail me privately if you are. No special reason, I'm just nosey. ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:32:10 -0700 (PDT) From: chasds@mindspring.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]ebay outing: rare british brake cables and housing Message-ID: <1858492.1051230732082.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 18
I'm sure I need these for something, but nothing occurs to me..so I out them to the list! Rare ribbed cable housings from our pal in Eindhoven, BC... if you need these, you need these and nothing else will do!
Charles "ebay addict" Andrews SoCal
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 21:05:16 EDT From: Wdgadd@aol.com To: apgmaa@earthlink.net, chasds@mindspring.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]long qr skewers, where to find? Message-ID: <28.3722283f.2bd9e3cc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 19
In a message dated 4/23/03 8:25:15 PM, apgmaa@earthlink.net writes:
<< I have been able to successfully install a 1999(?) Campy Veloce QR skewer
rod (for 130 mm axles) into a Campy NR skewer. Just remove the original rod
and install the new one. It's a perfect drop in. >>
I've been able to do the same with older style Shimano MTB skewer rods. Although the length is a bit greater, also a drop in substitute for Campagnolo.
Best regards, Wes Gadd Unionville, CT ------------------------------
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 21:28:33 EDT From: ELandpapa@aol.com To: OROBOYZ@aol.com, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Notice! CR list downtime... Message-ID: <1ab.13da87c7.2bd9e941@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 20
Friday Will be the 25th. of April. Ed Landreth, Norfolk, VA ------------------------------
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