Re: [CR] Re Claud on eBay with Bi-lam lugs

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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 17:43:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [CR] Re Claud on eBay with Bi-lam lugs
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Bob Reid <flying_scot@btopenworld.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <BB4FCA50.4E8E%flying_scot@btopenworld.com>


Yes I think these lugs are refined Ekla ones too - although used pre-war they were common in the early post-war years too. When I collected the rennants of the frame material that was left over from Thanets there were a number of Ekla lugsets and many British builders used them for some time. Unlike Nervex they were a cast lug but they did require quite a lot of finishing before they could be built into a frame. I think Nervex style lugs were available in France pre-war but I have not seen a pre-war British frame using them.

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England

Bob Reid wrote:
> - Those lugs and the bracket shell appear to be the Ekla brand 'Continental'
> model. These seem to have been more common in the pre-war era than post. (
> see http://www.flying-scot.co.uk/frame_images/scot_1930sf.jpg ) Having said
> that, I often come across frames do you see built in the "shortage" years
> (1945-1949) appear to have been built, using up pre-war stocks / materials ?
> Interestingly these Ekla lugs appear to have been the basis of the lugs used
> on many of Singers (or was it Herse Jan ?) albeit much modified.
>
> - The earliest Nervex pro lugs I've come across have been on frames later
> than 1949, leading you to assume that they were introduced at that date. The
> only difference being the shape of the front tang on the head lugs - either
> looking like two small sharp teeth in one style, or the end of a snakes
> tongue in the other.
>
> - Although the frame is now clearly from 1949, there's no reason to assume
> it wasn't sold new as late as 1951 as Jim's frame was. - See my notes
> relating to Flying Scot's - http://www.flying-scot.co.uk/frame_notes.html
> though they apply equally well I suppose to any other lightweight marque.
>
>
> - I'm interested Jim in how you can tell the bracket shell was made from
> five separate parts - not out of any argumentative rason, just curiosity.
> The bracket shell appears the same as supplied in the Ekla set along with
> the lugs.