Re: [CR]Re: Campy the first parallelogram?

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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:56:27 -0700
From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Campy the first parallelogram?
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Wes Gadd wrote:
>
> I've heard an apocryphal story that Tullio was inspired to design the
> Gran Sport after closely inspecting a Nivex. Any truth to this, or B.S.?

Wes, you must have missed my previous post from an hour before:

The Dancing Chain (Frank Berto section of book): "Either Nivex or J.I.C (both French companies) made the first parallelogram rear derailleurs in the late 1930s, ten years before the Campagnolo Gran Sport." On page 149 both the Nivex and J.I.C are pictured.

Dates of each company's first use of parallelogram design in their derailleur: Campagnolo Gran Sport parallelogram design - 1951 Huret Alvit parallelogram design - 1958 Simplex Juy Export 61 parallelogram design - 1961

As can be see in the photos below, only the Campagnolo and Simplex look anything at all alike.

Nivex (1946) photo: http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/Shops/Nivex_rear.jpg

Campagnolo Gran Sport (1951) photo: http://www.geocities.co.jp/Outdoors-Mountain/8676/celeste2000/51GSrd1.jpg

Huret Alvit (1958) photo: http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/Market%20highs/Huret58_set_3.jpg

Campagnolo Gran Sport (1960) photo: http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~velo/brands/components/campygs2rds.jpg

Simplex Juy Export 61 (1961) photo: http://www.geocities.co.jp/Outdoors-Mountain/8676/celeste2000/SimplexJuyExport61-1.jpg

Chuck Schmidt
South Pasadena, CA