[CR]Now:Brooks Pro Large Rivet WAS:Brooks B-17 question

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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:04:47 -0700
From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <78.35d55ecc.2b5989e5@aol.com>
Subject: [CR]Now:Brooks Pro Large Rivet WAS:Brooks B-17 question

Ken Toda wrote:
> (cut)
> Mian question is; when did Brooks Prof. Large Rivet saddle become avilable?

Here's a post from last month:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks B.17 Pro large rivet date? Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:54:08 -0700 From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>
> >From the Holdsworthy (London) "Bike-Riders Aids 1965":
>
> "One of the few British components used by top continental Pros. B.17
> Professional (Illustrated). Designed to the suggestions of Pro' riders
> who in the past have had to 'butcher' saddles to achieve this shape. A
> specially selected butt leather top is fitted to a cambered back plate
> with large copper rivets. All 'spare' leather is trimmed from back and
> copper plated nose. Size 10 1/2" x 6" x 3", weight 25 ozs. complete
> with chrome clip, dressed or proofed -- £59/6
> Without clip, to suit standard Campag. pin No. 1044. 19 ozs. -- £55/6"
>
> The earliest reference I can find to the Brooks Pro is in the
> Holdsworthy Co. Ltd. Trade List (wholesale) for November 1964.
>
> Does anyone have an earlier reference to the Pro?

An update: In the January 1964 issue of Sporting Cyclist (GB magazine) there is a half page ad for the Brooks "Professional" large rivet saddle. With the magazine's two month lead time that would make this reference November 1964 (the previous months of the magazine show no similar ad).

Anyone seen some reference earlier than this?

Chuck Schmidt SoPas, SoCal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Chuck Schmidt SoPas, SoCal

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