In a message dated 1/9/2003 7:57:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
R.Delmare@Charter.net writes:
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> 1972 - Model P13-9 - $ 350.00
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> optional custom "made to measure" frame - $ 40.00
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> optional "Clementi Campionato del Mondo sew-up tires . . . on
> Weinmann aluminum alloy wood-filled rims" - $12.95 per pair
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> optional Campagnolo brakes - $ 50.00
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> Yes! That's the way it was! You could buy the entire 1972
> bicycle ( with very good brakes ) for $ 350 . But , if you wanted to
> upgrade to the optional Campagnolo brakes , it would have cost you an
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> $ 50 !!
> That was more than 14 % additional , AND they still got to
> keep the standard ( very good ) brakes !!
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While I've been regarding Raoul's recollections as gospel, have appreciated them, have kept them on file, now I've got to back and check the above somehow.
I bought the P-13 new in'72, and I remember the Campy's were $40, the rims for which I opted were Schwinn Approved (probably Super Champ 330g) and my tubulars were the no-charge Clement 50's. I thought the wood filled rims were dropped by that year. I opened the carton myself - and while it was very hot in the store room, the light was good enough that I would have noticed a set of Weinmann 999's and the two cable hangers.
In response to a previous posting about 'all Campy except brakes.(which was,in fact a second-nature phrase as was Superrecordnontitanium (later called super pro by many and meaning steel bb) I remember the Centurion Equipe '84 - made by Cinelli. We bought several and still have some new ones.It had Universal Brakes -(probably the 'Aer' model, I'll have to check-even thogh the cables were sprouting) Basically the FD,RD, shift levers were NR- another common set-up. The Motobecane GranRecord had these three pieces as well in an even farther back time.
On to Fanous Alternative marques/branding.
Cinelliphiles will probably have some commentary on Cinelli-made frames with alternate marques like the Centurion (the company was later changed to Diamondback before seriously plunging into the masses)
On a similar mote, Colnago made some frames for West Coast Cycle (Nishiki,Cycle Pro,Azuki, Mondo,Windsor importers) There was even one with eyelets and a slight 'stretch' to the frame. The name escapes me but will some back.
On to more...
Larry Black
Mt airy, Md.