Re: [CR]Cinelli Head Badge Again - Fake?

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From: <themaaslands@comcast.net>
To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org (Classic Rendezvous)
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli Head Badge Again - Fake?
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:17:58 +0000

Mike asked:
> I know this has been discussed before but I don't know if a definitive
> answer was reached. There is one of those brass looking Cinelli head
> badges for sale on Ebay again:
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> 319
>
> Has anyone ever seen a badge like this on a Cinelli and if so do they
> have proof ie a photo. I think it is a cheap knock off -- how come he has
> an unpainted one? When that one is painted is it the next to be on Ebay?
> It seems that they appearing on Ebay fairly frequently but not frequently
> enough that he wants to make it look like he has hundreds of them.
>
> Finally if they are fakes why were they made? I presume some went on
> bikes, maybe re badged Windsors?

This is a 100% guaranteed fake! There is no doubt whatsoever. I was 90% sure of the inaccuracy when I first outed the last of these badges, so I asked Cino's son Andrea who confirmed that it is a fake.

He wrote:

Non ho mai visto una targhetta simile. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A HEADBADGE

1. le targhette Cinelli venivano applicate sui manubri (40mm) e sui telai (50mm) e SONO TUTTE OVALI (non frastagliate) - ne possiedo ancora un centinaio (ovviamente originali e d'epoca) THE CINELLI BADGES WERE APPLIED TO THE FRAMES (50mm) AND STEMS (40mm) AND WERE ALL OVAL (NOT CUT OUT)- I STILL HAVE ABOUT ONE HUNDRED (OBVIOUSLY ORIGINAL AND VINTAGE) 2. lo scudo con l'elmo è su fondo BLU (e non oro) THE SHIELD WITH THE HELMET IS ON BLUE BASE (AND NOT GOLD)

3. la scritta "CINELLI" che attraversa lo scudo è in colore BLU (e non bianco) THE CINELLI SCRIPT THAT CROSSES THE SHIELD IS IN BLUE (NOT WHITE)

4. il fiore, il giglio che è l'emblema di Firenze, è su fondo BIANCO (e non giallo) THE FLOWER, THE LILY THAT IS THE EMBLEM OF FLORENCE, IS ON A WHITE BACKGROUND (NOT YELLOW)

Devo continuare con le differenze ?? (ce ne sono molte altre) DO I NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THE DIFFERENCES?? (THERE ARE MANY OTHERS)

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Steven Maasland
Moorestown, NJ